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That's interesting that we see two different things from different games. Wonder what his bread and butter is? It didn't look like in the Alabama game that much was ran from the shotgun or pistol, other than a couple of draw plays and stuff on 3rd and long.
I am watching the Penn State vs Temple game from 2011, and this offense looks exactly like the Urban Meyer spread (which is derived from the single wing). Shotgun. Cross-face read option. Lots of motion and play action. The only difference is that the QB isn't running as much (but nobody runs as much as Florida did with Tebow in this offense) so I would compare it to Urban Meyer's offense with Alex Smith, Chris Leak, and John Brantley.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZe_GsNOW0U
The Hokie offense was supposed to look like this and Clemson's offense this year, and we saw what happened. Harris and Edmunds are not great fits for running from the pistol or shotgun unless it is Harris running the zone stretch from pistol.
I will let some other folks respond to what OU fans and beat writers thought of Chuck Long, but I am not a clever enough writer to make up Chuck "Third and" Long.
As for "hanging Frank," his biggest offensive talent decides his future by Tuesday, so that is Beamer's timetable (unless for reason I can't understand he wants Logan out of the program.) To me, this fits a predictable pattern that we have seen from Beamer over the last couple of years. Loyalty to the staff, even when counterproductive; and then hemming and hawing and looking for backdoors instead of making a decision and being accountable (see Danny Coale and the fake punt.) Without knowing anything, and until someone inside the program tells me otherwise, I believe the following:
1) Pep Hamilton was their first choice, and Beamer has been in contact with him, confident that they would land him, since the Miami game (maybe sooner.)
2) Beamer did not have a contingency plan when Hamilton changed his mind.
3) Beamer is reaching out to people who have had some success, but are not immediate theats to want the head coaching job if he wants Shane to succeed him. Please note, if these are folks he interviewed in Nashville, we would have heard about them sooner.
4) Beamer is floating names to be reported as "sources" by media outlets who will not go to print with the staff being the source of information, and both he and Shane are measuring the reaction by the general fan base and the boosters.
I love what Beamer did for the program, and despite my rants, I am perfectly happy with a team that can win the ACC each year. I am happy with that because I am old enough to remember how completely irrelevant this program was when I was 10 years old growing up in Southwest Virginia (while I called myself a Washington Huskies/BYU fan.) I may be completely wrong, and I probably am. If this negatively impacts my credibility, so be it. But, I am sure that Virginia Tech needs an offensive coaching staff that uses the same concept as Bud Foster on defense.
1) Select a true system, where the staff teaching the system understand the fundamental skill set each position needs and recruits to that skillset. Preach attention to detail and do things right on every play. Take talent, and "coach them up" rather than depend on that talent to make up for a bad playcall.
2) Have a playcaller with experience in that system, who not only knows the goals and objectives of each play inside and out, but has the feel for when to call them in game. If that means running a power lead 20 times, then mixing in some play-action, so be it.
3) Whatever the system is, instill in the offense the same bully mentality that the defense has. Each player must have the attitude that, win or lose, the guy on the other side of the line hurts more than you the next day.
The first day of training camp on day 1 with the Packers, Vince Lombardi walked into a locker room that had seven future Hall of Famers (Paul Hornung, Bart Starr, Forest Gregg, Jim Taylor, Ray Nitschke, Henry Jordan, Jim Ringo) but they were coming off a 1-10-1 season. The first thing Lombardi told them according to Bart Starr was:
"GENTLEMEN. We are going to RELENTLESSLY chase perfection, knowing full and well that we will never catch it. But we will RELENTLESSLY pursue it. And, as result of our work, we will capture EXCELLENCE."
Nick Saban didn't build his dynasty by recruiting the best players. He created the best system, won, and then the best wanted to play there. Stanford hasn't been winning with five star talent. Hell, our own Hokies did it in the 90's. Virginia Tech can be a dominant program, but they must be bring back the attitude and the attention to detail that brought them from the college football netherworld in the first place.
Even if we hired Pep after the UVa game, if he were offered by SF I think he would have taken it. Our own DB coach did the same thing. Torrian accepted an offer by Golden at Temple then a couple weeks later we made the staff shakeups that lead to Ward, Ball and Pearman leaving and Gray, Sherman and Newsome arriving.
passing words, joe, but I think you are right.
If LaFleur was interested in the QB coaching job, I would be over the moon, but I can see what you are saying.
i was in the sez. i saw the rb wheel around to the back of the endzone wide open. i saw the ball sailing towards him. i sat down and dropped my head into my hands. i heard the air come out of the stadium and the bc section losing it. what a shitty night.
...LTs capabilities. AT BEST he's here one more year. Yes, we have a diverse set of RBs and an OL that HAS NEVER BEEN COACHED BEFORE....so, bright side, blank slate!
It's seems we are considering OCs and offensive identities. Those two things are pretty inseparable. I think we also are caught up in a VT centric world where we have our choice. We don't.
I had this nightmarish thought that maybe CFB isn't going to replace Stinespring at all. That maybe he's just trying to light a fire under the guy and inspire him to "do better". I really doubt this would ever happen but I'm assuming the worst so i can't be disappointed.
Every Hokie fan should just agree to stay off of every social networking site until something is official.
Nobody has confirmed anything on Long, LaFluer expressed interest in the job, NOT the other woah around. As much fun as speculation about the new OC has been, this column takes all the fun out of it for me. How about we just wait and see how this turns out before we burn Frank AND our new OC in effigy?
And I'd like to see where you got the OU fans hating Chuck Long. The OU fans I've talked to love him, compared him favorably to Mike Leach (which does NOT fit with the Beamer I know and leads more credence to calling that rumor bs).
Ok, anti-rant rant over.
That's about as much of a mystery as who will be coordinating the offense next season.
I disagree about Scott Loeffler. What makes you think he runs a spread scheme?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4PXccv2goI Watch this from Auburn. Looks more "Pro-Style" than anything.
Then look at his offense from his year at temple, none of these runs look like a single wing spread http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz55GBZmt2Q
If you're not gonna stay and watch the game up until at least the fourth quarter, don't even bother buying tickets. That's the way I look at it. If we're getting our asses handed to us, it's sure not gonna make the players feel any better if they look out and see an empty crowd (although they shouldn't be concerned about the crowd at that point) if everyone is gone mid third quarter or earlier, and if we're murdering someone, I'm sure the younger players would love a pretty decent sized crowd watching them play. They are the future, after all.
And what sickens me is how some people leave in a close game in the fourth quarter just because they think we can't win, notably the 2009 Nebraska game, the 2011 Miami game, and the 2012 Georgia Tech game.
With that being said, I do understand that some fans have to meet commitments and that may require them to leave a game early, but if you're leaving to beat the traffic, that's unacceptable. It looks terrible, recruiting-wise, and you just never know what may happen.
What's his status? He was supposed to enroll this winter, and it was stated that if he couldn't get in he'd look elsewhere.
At least we have about 4 running backs to choose from and each one would fit nice in one of these offenses. I just don't know if this team can handle another change of personnel like they did in the 2012-13 season, especially the returners on the offensive line and Logan Thomas.
But hey, I don't think anything can be worse than what Stinespring did from 2006-08 and what Stinespring and O'cain did in 12-13. At least I hope not.
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# | FB's staff retention isn't just about Stiney;Shane is AHC, that affects new hires too! Frankly, if a new OC comes in and succeeds, they will join a fairly crowded field for the next HC at VT.
He has a nice resume for an NFL up-and-comer, but his lack of college experience makes me think twice.
Prior to joining the Texans, LaFleur worked at Ashland University as the offensive coordinator, coaching the quarterbacks and wide receivers. LaFleur began his coaching career at Saginaw Valley State as an offensive assistant in 2003 before taking the same position at Central Michigan from 2004-05. He coached the quarterbacks and wide receivers at Northern Michigan in 2006.
That's it. I have a hard time believing Beamer would turn the keys over to someone that inexperienced too.
did a recent interview with the Fridge- he said he has spoken to Beamer recently but it was not about taking over the offensive coordinator position.
Here is the link to HJ WaPo Twitter page:
https://twitter.com/HokiesJournal/status/289772220241289216
Had to put them in a couple times. They played the ECU game a couple years over the loud speaker so we had to listen to them lose as we installed the seats. This past year I sat on the west side and got to sit in them and they are better than sitting on the bleachers.
Ralph Friedgen. I'm not going to let this one go.
I thought Brady was an excellent college QB. I never understood the switcheroo with Henson. Brady was consistantly more effective. He wasn't a hot NFL prospect because of the QB switcheroo and because there were questions about his arm strength. Scouts knew he was a heady guy who got the ball out quickly and was confident. Both he and Brees had very similar profiles coming out (although it took longer for Brees to get established.)
What, just because RG3 fell into his lap makes him a great QB coach?
/sarcasm
More names are not necessarily bad, worth giving him an interview
Perhaps this is why Stiney and Shane were at the skins game two weeks ago.

we all have to remember something. Every job search, every open position, whether advertized or not advertized, has to have two people: one that can offer the position, and one that wants it. We don't know if some of these rumored applicants sought out CFB. It's been fairly common knowledge that we're in the market for an OC. If, for example, Chuck Long contacted Frank, Frank wouldn't be doing due diligence not to at least talk to the guy. We all want this resolved soon, but I keep saying it....deep breath, folks!