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# | An Unlikely Candidate for Offensive Coordinator but a Good One: Chris Klenakis 
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# | An Unlikely Candidate for Offensive Coordinator but a Good One: Chris Klenakis
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# | An Unlikely Candidate for Offensive Coordinator but a Good One: Chris Klenakis I know it's doubtful that CFB even looks at this guy. I think that Beamer lives in a vacuum sometimes. French thinks that he looks to ODU. I'd be OK with that as long as some running game is mixed in. I know some have mentioned Dana Bible. Not sure if there is any connection with him
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# | An Unlikely Candidate for Offensive Coordinator but a Good One: Chris Klenakis I am not sure if you saw my final film review (Boston College), but it was highly critical of Logan Thomas, as he went through the entire game completing only one NFL caliber throw (the fade route to Davis.) Sometimes, every player successfully completed their task with one exception, and the exception killed the play. Those plays were not the coaches fault.
My issue with the coaching staff is the mish/mash philosophy and the insistence on playing guys which sabotage the good work of other players. Perhaps even more important than scheme, a coach must take the talent he has and put it in position to succeed. Time and again, the offensive staff played guys like David Wang, Eric Martin, and Dyrell Roberts, and then called plays/used systems that required them to complete assignments that they were not physically capable or willing to perform. I have been hard on Wang, but an average ACC guard would have a difficult time reach blocking an eagled nose tackle on a power play. Eric Martin down blocking an All ACC defensive end against North Carolina is an unfair matchup. Dyrell Roberts clearly was not going to make any effort to block, yet they continued to run wide sweeping plays that WILL NOT WORK without an effective option stalk. Either you get guys on the field who can play, or you maximize the effectiveness of the guys you have and hide their weaknesses.
This offensive staff failed miserably in both regards, and in order to fix it, there must be commitment to an identity and autonomous offensive coaches who know how to teach the system and then call it within the flow of a game. Beamer's decisions about the offense should be limited to who he hires, and if they go for it on fourth down. End of story.
If hes a first rounder he needs to go (LT). Dont sleep on Leal next year if so
JJ is just tired of him being soft. He has been pushed around a lot this season by smaller centers. Of course every time he does try to play hard he gets a foul. (Davila V.2?)
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# | An Unlikely Candidate for Offensive Coordinator but a Good One: Chris Klenakis Would be an exciting hire but, like French already said, no ties to Beamer (or even VA) so I doubt its even a consideration. If we do in fact bring in a new OC (something I will believe when I see) I really think it will be Fridge. He is a known quantity to Beamer, fits right in, and (thinking long term) could mentor a younger guy like Shane to eventually take the reigns (and Shane has already coached under him.) Anything else would totally shock me.
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# | An Unlikely Candidate for Offensive Coordinator but a Good One: Chris Klenakis Our offense has been consistently mediocre or worse. The only reason we've had our consistent 10-win seasons is because our defense is almost always stellar. Part of our problem this year was that the defense wasn't too hot right out of the gate, and the offense wasn't good enough to account for that. In order to go from a consistently good team to a consistently great team, we need an offense that can move the ball consistently, in addition to our stiff defense. "Defense wins championships" isn't as true any more as it once was, you need to have at least a decent offense to get anywhere.
And to your point about LT3's errors this year, better coaching breeds better execution. The coaches aren't out there on the field, the coaches spend their entire week making sure that when the team takes the field they are prepared. The fact that he seemed to get worse as the season went on is particularly concerning.
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# | An Unlikely Candidate for Offensive Coordinator but a Good One: Chris Klenakis The rest of the team was never flawless. No one is saying that. However, despite the fact that this is the first year Tech has lost so many games in recent memory, this is not the first year in recent memory that we have had a bit of a pedestrian offensive attack. We've had some great athletes make up for some things over the years, but we haven't really been an offense that you could consistently expect to score in large quantities for a while. With a few exceptions, the defense has been good for many years. Special teams has been on the decline lately. All things considered, I would say that offense has been the weakest part of the team for a few years now, and people are tired of that.
Since boosters and people close to Newsome have said he fully expects to be released.
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# | An Unlikely Candidate for Offensive Coordinator but a Good One: Chris Klenakis Those on this board are consistent with placing 100% blame on the coaching staff. So how does that correct the huge number of errors centered around the qb position that we saw all year long? The errors are mainly poor execution due to poor performance.
Coaches are responsible but not directly.
Fix that and get a power running back, and all should be better on that side of the ball. The defense isn't without its lack of performance (Pitt, Cincy, UNC, Clemson). Need to address that to. Special teams weren't always stellar either (Miami).
To think one or two coaching changes will change everything is absurd.
when i saw the vt at the bottom of the screen last night on csn denoting there was hokie news out there worth noting, i thought frank had made a move. then when it popped up that wood was out indefinitely, i thought, "man double whammy."
That is why they will start him. If Logan leaves, it is Leal's job to lose. Our Coaches really lean on redshirting QBs so they can learn the system. TT was a special case because Glennon was that bad. Carlis Parker has a greater chance than Bucky Hodges does. He comes in in January, and has more time to learn the system, plus all spring to compete against Leal. Realistically, everyone would have to be pretty bad for Carlis Parker or Bucky Hodges to start.
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# | An Unlikely Candidate for Offensive Coordinator but a Good One: Chris Klenakis I hate to say it, but I don't think we're gonna see too many changes on the offensive side of the ball. I just have a feeling that we'll see the exact same playbook and playing style trot off the sidelines for a few too many three and outs next year. I don't mean to be pessimistic, but I just don't have a good gut feeling about this whole "staff change" business.
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# | An Unlikely Candidate for Offensive Coordinator but a Good One: Chris Klenakis A detailed explanation of Clemson's offense: http://dev.chuckoliver.net/2011/03/what-does-hunh-stand-for/
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# | An Unlikely Candidate for Offensive Coordinator but a Good One: Chris Klenakis Clemson does not run the Pistol. Clemson runs an H back driven Wing-T/Single Wing hybird.
In theory, the Pistol allows the offense to run veer read option while allowing the offense to run a basic, one back zone read, but with the QB having the ability to get the ball to the back quicker, allowing more time to read the defense and cut off zone reads. The Hokie efforts to run the pistol were derailed by a number of issues that I plan on covering in the offseason:
1) Logan Thomas was ill-suited to the pistol. He doesn't have the ability to bootleg effectively and the footwork was a challenge.
2) The Hokies never committed to establishing inside and outside veer dive.
3) The Hokies attempted to use the pistol to run their traditional zone and stretch plays, but the interior guard play allowed too much back side pursuit and the tight ends, especially Eric Martin and Randall Dunn, did not effectively seal the edge.
That being said I would be excited about the hire, but because he does not have any ties to Beamer or the Commonwealth, I think it is unlikely.
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# | An Unlikely Candidate for Offensive Coordinator but a Good One: Chris Klenakis If we do hire someone that runs the pistol heavy, that fits what Beamer praised about Clemson, and Clemson runs out of the Pistol about 90% of the time (French, can you confirm?).
The Pistol is actually an interesting concept. It's based off on the old single-wing and wing-T offense system, and can be devastating to opponents. The Redskins is the perfect example of how a Pistol with the right quarterback can do a lot of damage. Of course, having RG3 helps and a bulldozer running back in Morris helps takes the load off of Griffin.
That lead me to ponder this: if LT3 returns for one more year, a surprise for me, and Edwards emerge as the best running back, and the receiver corps flourish with diva MD7 gone from the team, I can honestly see the Pistol wrecking havoc in the ACC. LT3 is a threat to run every time he keeps the option, but I want to see him evolve into a true pocket passer a la Big Ben.
However, I think that Tech needs to bring back the old power I offense that they used to be. They would ram the ball down the opponent's throats repeatedly and without mercy. Of course, having a decent mashing o-linemen would help a ton.
The kind of offense need to compliment Bud's defense. Is the Pistol offense system the answer? Will it fit the current roster of talented players? Those are the questions that needs to be examined in harsh lights.
Especially if that 7 on 7 coaches influence is making things uncomfortable. You mentioned a handful of recruits in the 757 saying we need 3. I would be surprised to land 2 of those kids as of now.
But besides recruiting, it doesn't make any sense. No connections. A 34 yr old OC. No commitment to the running game.
If it happens, it may be Shane driven. I really believe Frank wants, more than any other thing, to keep this program at a healthy enough level to turn it over to Shane. As a father,that would absolutely be my #1 priority. Frank sent Shane out to learn under others. He only brought him back when Shane's resume merited it. Now, as the end is near and Shane is poised to spend 5-6 more years and be the obvious heir apparent, a major change is afoot. If Shane has a connection to the ODU staff, or even if he vouches for their approach, it may go through. Especially with a vote from Bud.
If not, regurgitated OC. And it's not anymore risky than the ODU system. Look at what Noel Mazzone did at UCLA this year.
It is very difficult for me to get excited about any of these guys.
I don't have any information on ODU. Hell, I don't even see any ties, and those coaches know that they are getting a raise to make their pay competative with other Conference USA schools http://hamptonroads.com/2012/12/move-fbs-should-pay-odu-coaches , but that pay raise hardly seems competative with what VT could offer. The staff at ODU knows how to recruit the 757, leaving Foster and Shane to cover NOVA and Richmond area. They have coached a successful offensive system. It just makes sense.
At the same time, outside of recruiting, I would be lukewarm to that hire. I didn't like ODU's committment to the running game, and I still think Beamer's vision includes being able to keep Foster's defense off the field, which allows them to take more chances and create turnovers when on the field. Shortening the game is critical to his thinking. We can argue over that approach, but for an OC to get autonomy from Beamer, Beamer must trust his approach.
I just can't see a scenario where he stays. Ultimately, Beamer has eyes, and if he watches film, he will see talented players who are not playing anywhere near potential. I think that, given that we have seen Newsome's responsibility scaled back (OL to guards and centers only, and then less recruiting responsibility for 2014), and that guards and centers were the weak link up front this fall, means he is done.
If he isn't let go in some fashion at this point, I would be stunned. Absolutely stunned.
1) I don't notice much different from past games regarding subbing. He likes to rotate a lot of men in and out to keep everyone fresh.
2) Green's shot looked in. I was at the angle where I could see it straight into the hoop, it looked perfect. The thought process is: If we shoot early and miss, we have a chance to foul and make more shots to try and tie it up, or get the rebound and shoot again. I'm okay with Erick taking a pull up three in transition, and I thought it was good. Maybe since he missed we look back and wish he would've gotten a quick layup, but I like the plan (my view didn't let me see how contested it was, but it didn't look like it from where I was).
3) You already got your answer. Any time the clock stops under after the 4 minutes of play. Every 4 minutes.
...NFL friendly might send Beamer after a coach with NFL ties. May also help convince LT to stay around?
Otherwise, I'm still expecting a retread like Dana Bible, Jim Bollman or Randy Sanders. That's competition that Fridge compares favorably too, especially in Beamer context. Of note, Fridge is no spring chicken but his 4-5 year timeframe would mesh well with Franks retirement timeframe.
His quotes on the matter so far have been in line with what a guy should say who is assuming he will come back but will go pro if in the first couple of rounds. I'm glad he isn't upfront about exactly what he needs to hear from the projections, that's his business.
Up until ACC play I wouldn't be surprised if we saw more from Christian Beyer. Kid has a high motor and a decent shot, just not the size, which should be fine till ACC time.
Hope you're right french. I just hope that some running. Game will be mixed into the odu air raid. The other option I see is a mix of some of the nc state coaches but TOB is a head coach, not an OC .. And dana bible has health concerns--no offense to him but that doesn't make him a very hire-able coach. He should focus on his health...odu's entire offensive staff would kick ass
Tom O'Brien for QB Coach? I'd say he's developed QBs pretty well.
Agree with what you are saying. I have never seen offensive line personnel change from series to series like VT did this year. Lineman (and really anybody else) need to get into a flow. Mass substitution disrupts the flow, especially on the offensive line where cohesion and unity and knowing your teammate are most important.
Most coaches will put the best 22 players on the field and stick with it. Exception may be certain packages on Defense (like the nickel). But the core group doesn't change except in the case of injury. This shows the coaches are committed to these 22 players, afterwhich the player's confidence grows.
So putting players in a position of failure, or not sticking to a core of players, or telling a player he is going to start and then he doesn't, or pulling players and then platooning, all destroys confidence. I see that being the biggest issue with this team, which boils down to coaching and coaches developing confident players. I see the problem as teamwide though. Also have to put some of it on the players too. LT doesn't bounce back from a mistake very well. One mistake tends to bring on many more. If all is going well, he can be a really good qb.