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I'm glad to finally be apart of TKP community, I just have one question. How do you embed images in a post. I'd love to enhance my post with beautiful images I find online, but I'm not quite that techno savvy just yet.
As a VMI guy I went to Tech every possible weekend I could to visit with 3/4 of my graduating class from High School. Never attended a game, but hoping to remedy that situation next season. Love the insights and FrenchWasp is ridiculous. He made an offer in jest to coach at a discount, but it would be an instant upgrade anywhere on the offensive side of the ball. Thanks for what y'all do and for keeping this free!
hey all, been reading tkp religiously for about a year now. brief intro, went to tech for a while to study mechanical engineering but couldnt keep the grades. right now i'm going to school online to get my degree and plan to join the marine corps after graduating. in my short time at tech i fell in love with the program and what it stands for. though i may never get that vt degree, i will always be a die-hard tech fan, through highs and especially this year lows. at the end of the day i bleed maroon and orange just like my 66,000+ brothers and sisters every fall saturday night.
...Great coaches leave a tree. How many assistants under Frank have gone on to be successful coaches other places? Answer: ZERO! Consider this: How many OC or HC jobs has Stiney been considered for...answer: ZERO! If he (and the rest of the offensive staff) is so good, why isn't anyone trying to steal them?
Welcome. Let's hope that the last couple of weeks give us something to get excited about
(...like Wyatt Teller announcing he plans to be the starting left tackle next year. SHABOYGIN!)
A question I sometimes ask myself is do you think the offensive coaches from any other university have ever visited the Virginia Tech staff?
I'm pretty sure that has never happened.
The fact that every summer we send our coaching staff to another program to learn a new offensive scheme indicates that the offensive minds we have are not capable of being creative enough to coach at this level. Sure, if you run a spread style offense and you want to incorporate a few new wrinkles to an offense that is currently stable and successful that's fine by me. Go visit Urban Meyer. Go check in with Nevada and learn more about the Pistol. But, you can't totally re-learn how to run an offense in one week. You don't go to school for 3 1/2 years then decide to change your major and expect to graduate on time. It's all common sense. Sometimes when something is broken, you can't fix it without buying some new parts (coaches) to fix it. It's not fair to the players or fans.
I'm sorry but I don't care if Stiney is a great recruiter and nice guy. He is wasting the talent with a failing offense. You know what really draws top players to your program?? Winning Big games and scoring lots of points. Change must be made with this offense. Losing 6 out of 10 games is not acceptable.
To touch on Frank for accountability... Beams was happy with 400 yards of offense against Clemson. Well, Clemson is giving up over 500 yards in ACC match ups this year. This makes me think he is completely out of touch with what is expected.
This website is great, there are some very intelligent football fans on here offering some excellent game analysis, hardcore fans but realisitc and reasonable, not to mention the humor present in good times and bad. Thanks to everyone for posting thoughtful comments and not ripping mine to shreds like on the ESPN boards. Glad to be a Hokie!
I think he fits in C with Michael Vick.
Louisville - Suck it nati.
K-State - I think K-State is for real, and still underrated. Crushed the cousins and took down the Sooners on the road. Clobbered Miami at home. I'm sold.
Florida - Don't know why they are good, but I know UGA isn't good.
theOhio State - Don't care about the Big1(2).
Notre Dame - Sooners getting 10.5?! Wow. Notre Dame's defense is too stout for me to go with that spread.
Bama - Toughest pick this week I think. Mississippi State hasn't played any difficult road games yet... or any difficult games at all really. I think Bama rolls but Miss St might be able to cover.
..."straightening out the offensive staff." The answer is "fire everybody." Clearly Newsome should go. Clearly Sherman isn't coaching his position well (and isn't much of a recruiter). Clearly we need a new OC, who likely will come in as a QBs Coach, so MOC is gone. Clearly we need an OLine that is the basis of our offense, so go get the best guy you can find.
So, realistically, that's not going to happen.
We know Shane isn't going anywhere (and he shouldn't) but he can coach about any position (as well as he is coaching RB's.) Of note, what's Cornell Brown doing? We hardly play Whips, he's not recruiting anyone. Should we move Shane to defense to replace Cornell?
Go get a OC/QB coach. Go get the best OL coach money can buy. Find a place for Shane and Stiney. Gray, Wiles and Foster are safe. Everything else is up for debate.
That's a lot of potential turnover.
Frank is going to point to 1) the past success under this coaching staff leading to ACC championships and 10-win seasons (yawn), and 2) the fact that we have more successful offensive players in the NFL than defensive players which would lead you to believe they were taught the fundamentals to be successful. This includes 2 QBs, 2-3 RB's, 2-3 WRs, and a half dozen OL several of which are starting.
The other thing is that if we can beat Miami, then everything you point out is going to get glossed over as we back into the ACC championship game and this pitiful season will be viewed as a great rebuildig year where we were still able to compete towards the team goals.
In order for the radical changes to take place that you are asking for (and I agree with), then Tech probably needs to lose out in order to get peoples attention.
A last point - while lil Beamer can clearly recruit, I think he has some accountability to the running game. The biggest knock on Hite was that he rode the hot hand too much and kept underclassman (Ore, Evans, Wilson) on the bench too much. However he almost always had a reliable backfield that controlled the ball. Beamer is taking the opposite approach in sharing carries and the fundamentals / ball control seem to be an issue going back to Wilson last year. Wilson covered up a lot of that with his talent but Beamer is going to have to teach and coach this team - something he hasn't done on this side of the ball EVER.
Glad to find this place.
Cards are Strong
Texas Tech
Gators just because of your write up
PSU
ND.....wow I hate saying that..just the spread...whew
Bulldogs...too many points...
BOTW: Bold City Killer Whale Cream Ale
If the offensive coaches are evaluated by the production of their players on the field, then they have all tremendously underperformed. Like French wrote, I too believe Newsome and Sherman are the most guilty parties. However, from an organizational standpoint, the offense is a mess. The dynamic of O'Cain calling the plays and Stinespring formulating the game plan isn't working. Among the coaches, there's just enough cross-distribution of responsibilities, so there's minimal accountability, and it never falls on the Frankinator's desk. However, this is his offense, and he's picked the people to run it. He needs to be the one to clean up this mess.
I don't care what offense we run, I just want us to have capable people to execute it. Weeklong seminars at various colleges where our staff learns schemes second hand won't cut it. The media guide lists our offense as, "Multiple". I cringe every time I read it. A little bit of what Florida did in 2005 + what Ohio State did under Tressel + Texas' new offense + Clemson's motioning + Nevada's Pistol + ... = an unfocussed attack with too many concepts to be successful. If you want to be loyal to your staff, then let them do what they know and are good at, whatever it is.
I feel like with the amount of success we've had, coupled with the high amount of failure in big games, the fans have come to sugar coat how we support the team in order to be able to swallow what a successful season is. Every time I hear of Virginia Tech be a national powerhouse I chuckle a bit to myself. I will not consider us a national powerhouse, no not when we win a NC, but rather when we consistently win games against very good teams. I dread the 10-win streak that we currently have (yet are going to finally break) because it's just an easy way to go, "Oh it's okay that we lost 3 games to ranked teams, but we beat 11 'very good teams' (as Beamer would say)." Yes, we've built the program up to one that is nationally recognized and is known for consistently being a solid team, but can we please stop teetering on the edge and get over this freaking hump? The story of Virginia Tech football contains a lot of "if's" or "we almost," "we should've," and this turns into an empty trophy case. I think our goal every year should be a national championship. We've reached that one time, so I don't see why you would ever lower your standards. If you reach it once, reach it again and again and again. Just get over this god damn hump that seems to be slowing slipping away from us.
To pick against the spread. Hey guys we still beat Duke. That counts?
Louisville -- Legaux!!!!
Texas Tech -- Boy do I believe in Kansas State but this one smells funny. 45-38 kind of game.
Florida -- Mark Richt has lost control of his defense. The World's Biggest Cocktail Party will be serving up fresh Bulldog.
Ohio State -- I feel weird about this one as tOSU barely squeaked by Purdue last week. Then, PSU lost to LOLUVA. I'll probably end up eating this one though.
Notre Dame -- Oklahoma just loves to shit the bed.
Mississippi State -- 23.5 points? LAWL
BOTW: Tried UFO Pumpkin last night by Pyramid. Great beer but I wouldnt have all six in a sitting.
about Steinspring and his penchant for the next big thing,
"The offensive philosophy is a hodgepodge of "the newest thing" offensive ideas, but never a full commitment to any singular approach. "
it brought this to mind. I bet if you were to go to the Steinspring household, and open any closet door, you'd find a bunch of products with "as seen on TV" labels on the package. It also brought this classic to mind, with Steiney in the role of Opus.
Based on our success over the years, (the whole winningest team since 1995 or whatever it is) I feel that we aim for these two things every year. If an ACC championship comes along with that, awesome. If it doesn't? Well that's good news for the ACC then... Based on the brand that we have, I feel these are reasonable goals. We aren't going to be competing for a National Title every year. That much is obvious. We aren't getting the players that will bring us there every year, and the coaching really isn't at that level. To be a National Championship coach, you either have to be A) A fantastic recruiter(Nick Saban), B) An Innovative coach that installs a system that works wherever it is put into place (Urban Myer, Chip Kelly), C) Get lucky and find a once in a lifetime player to carry your team to the title (Gene Chizik), or D) The luckiest coach in sports (Les Miles). Many could argue that Beamer most closely fits into the B catagory with defense and special teams, but the fact of the matter is that it is no longer innovative and succesful, so he therefore doesn't qualify.
Does this mean that maybe once or twice in a decade we could have a team where the parts fit together really nicely and make a run? Absolutely, but at the same time, it forces us to attempt to remain one of the top teams nationally in addition to being the best in an ACC that has been down for quite some time. As of late we're been a Big Fish in a small pond that just gets eaten every time it tries to head to deeper waters.
Beating Hoos is a given. If we drop one during the season and don't reach the MNC I'll be upset, but I will settle for just beating who we play in a BCS bowl or 2nd tier bowl game like the Chik-Fil-A bowl. I think if we had won these games in the past the fan base would be more forgiving right now. Also, beating a higher ranked opponent in some of these neutral site games would help as well. I don't think we do the right type of recruiting (SECheating) to be optimistic of a national championship every few years, but we need to take care of business in the post season.
I agree if Thomas and the upper classmen who have under performed stick around we could have a great season.
Cincy
TT
UF
PSU
OU (because ACC)
Bama
Lville wins, but the nattiboys get the points
Red Raiders get the points, but good 'ol Bill pulls the game out for K-state.
Gators chomp the dawgs. The fans don't remember large portions of the game, for some reason, though.
tOSU in my I-don't-know-why pick of the week.
Golden Domers don't have a prayer against the Sooners, who cover.
Buldogs are one of the other teams with maroon as their color. Their unis are nice, too. But unis don't win games against the evil emperor. Bama wins, but the Bulldogs get enough points to keep them under the spread.
Louisville
KState - They're the real deal
Gators
tOSU
ND - This line seems way high
Miss. State


...the "staff loyalty" that many have credited with our success.