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i really dont think the psu crowd gets it. like, AT ALL.
Although the circumstances were obviously much different, I thought now would be a good time to remind everyone of Penn State's reaction at their spring game after the shooting at VT:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/Penn_State_2007_Sprin...
As a former PSU fanatic, I feel as though the NCAA imposed sanctions are just and fair. I'm a little saddened by the vacated wins, considering they occurred durring my era of nittany lion support and what it does for joepa's (RIP) wins record. But now that im a tech student and all in with Beamer and co. It honestly doesn't matter for me. I really just wish they would have left the statue standing, because all things considered joepa did so much good (money donated etc.) for the school it should ( I know it doesn't) remain as a tribute to all his teams and the success they had. Overall it may seem a little harsh, but it's what needed to be done.
they will be irrelevant for at least 8 years.
Actually, they are less severe than I thought they would be as there were rumors going around that the entire 2012 football season would be suspended. As it is, they get to play but just won't get to play in any bowl games, etc.
And wow....some of the Penn St. fans just don't get the seriousness of what happened, do they?
and the answer is yes - Penn State fans have officially begun comparing these sanctions to Nazi Germany
Would have been less severe, but I agree with everything laid down on the program.
The media also likes stories of redemption.
I thnik he only has one second chance. There are plenty of 19-20 year olds that make poor choices. Most do not get caught. Many that do often wake up and turn things around. You never know how things will turn out. I believe in giving people a chance at redemption.
I am happy that we get a talented player back in a position of need. Every time we setup for a field goal this season though, ESPN will talk about the arrest. They are probably already jotting this down in their notes for the game on labor day.
and acting like that's the extent of it because that's the plea deal Journell recieved misses the point in my view. The facts and circumstances of the case, which require no in depth knowledge and have never been challenged in terms of their accuracy as far as I know, make this much more serious than the simple act of trespassing.
Honestly I don't mind giving a kid another chance. God knows I did stupid things when I was in school. The thing that bothers me is that what Journell did is MUCH worse (again, my opinion) than disorderly conduct or public drunkenness. It was a premeditated crime to made 'necessary' by an illegal transaction.
I do not know the circumstances, but without any additional information it really bothers me that Journell was given another chance, and Telvion Clark was not. Maybe Clark already had his other chances, but if so I never heard about it. I do know that some of his teammates also seemed to think his treatment was unfair (based on tweets around that time), and they probably know the circumstances better than most of us.
Had a troubled childhood, less than stellar extra-curricular record in college, and resurrected his lifestyle in the NFL (Joe Gibbs loved him). Coles revealed he was sexually abused as a boy and worked hard to be a better person. But, I see your point. Young people make mistakes, and the some seem to habitually make dumb mistakes. I doubt Journell become a model citizen, but I do believe he'll keep out of trouble.
Beamer would let Charlie Manson on the team if the kicking game depended on it. But with regard to Journell, this has been taken a little over the top. It was only a pellet gun, he's not a dealer, and it wasn't really trespassing if they let him in. Go ahead and charge him with impersonating a pizza boy, but this isn't nearly as serious as that asshat Marcus Vick. That said, if he so much as jaywalk, he's likely going to be booted, and Hokie Bird will have to handle kickoffs.
Thanks guys, I was a bit salty when I was posting yesterday. The fact that a transation was supposed to take place was my initial red flag and then thinking that it was a good idea to use an airgun with the intent of making Zo and his boys think it was a gun is enough for me.
Best case scenario: With so many scandals in college football and the ACC, this adds un-needed attention and scrutiny to the program. Worst case is that the guy reverts, and when you need him, he gets suspended.
Sadly, the track record for these second chances is dicey at best. Some guys like Vick, Imoh and Hill were productive, but not enough to offset the stain they added to the program. All three had a reputation for being a divisive presence in the lockeroom (especially Imoh.)
Name a good redemption story in college football. Not one where a guy got in trouble and then was a great player on the field, but one who came back, was effective on the field, and was a class citizen off of it. I can't name that guy, not associated with this program.
I'm OK with Journell being reinstated. I know a lot of people think it is a bad idea, and it sets a bad precedent. Keep in mind, throughout his tenure Beamer's given his players second chances, then cut ties if they've screwed up again. It doesn't surprise me Journell's back, and it won't surprise me when Dadi is back. What Journell did was more than stupid (being part of a group looking to steal back drugs after a transaction fell through), and cowardly (wielding an airgun). Personally, the latter pushes the threshold of my morality meter. However, he's paid/paying for his mistake(s). He's on probation and will perform community service. He's fulfilled the university's requirements. I disagree with French that troublemakers are always trouble. However, I think it's logical to reason there's more of a chance for them to get in trouble again, than it would be for a straight arrow to bend. Only time will tell what Journell will do with this opportunity, but no matter the outcome I still think he deserves the chance to turn it around.
Unless you have more in depth knowledge, Journell never dealt drugs or handled anything more than an air gun. The court of law ruled a misdemeanor of trespassing. I can live with that.
I guess I am the only one who isn't ok with this. Troublemakers are always trouble, and that holds true 99% of the time despite touching redemption stories. Misdemeanor or not, a gun and the fact that he was dealing and not just sharing is a no-sell for me.
The low point for this program in the 20 years I have watched was letting Marcus Vick, Mike Imoh, and Brendan Hill back on this team. I don't want to see them start giving more troublemakers second chances. You can't win with them.
The fact that Journell was at a high-need position only makes it stink worse. He should be sitting with Telvion Clark somewhere reassessing their lives.
No k in Ric Flair my friend.
-- Full Trottle Offense
-- Fighting Gobblers (they can scrape it off Lane but can be attributed elsewhere)
-- High O'C(t)ain Offense
-- Grindsburg
-- THE DRILL FIELD
that's one trickle of sweat receding from the brow.
of course, according to Kirky Herbstreit, it was all Collins fault.
I thought Collins did a decent job (although the technique that we were taught was to take on the pulling guard with the inside shoulder instead of facing the blocker.) If the Hokies were playing a base defense, Edwards would have been filling that inside gap. The call put him out of position, but even if he is inside Collins plugging up the hole, he wasn't the best at taking on OL one on one.
The damage was done when Hopkins was blocked. I can't understand what Derrick was doing on that play. He had an angle on his blocker, but the guard was not only on him quickly, but was able to turn him. That block guarenteed that barring a miracle play by Collins or Edwards, the play would go for a minimum of 6 yards. When you add Tyler and Maddy both getting driven from their gaps, it became a recipe for disaster. Fuller didn't help things either, but it is still a big game even if he makes the tackle.
I never deleted him as a facebook friend...
I'm sure the lst time he does something wrong, no matter how minor it is, he'll be kicked off the team for good.
also, dont forget the classless halloween costumes donned by psu students. 2 sides to the coin there.