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You're acting like this is a unique moral quandry for VT.

This is the standard everywhere. Everyone else is doing this. We are far, far below our own in-state peers in terms of using academic student fees for athletics.

This is the fucking problem with VT right now. We all say we want to be competitive and we all say we want things to be good, but the moment it becomes time to see the bill we all suddenly pretend like we left our wallet at home or we start pontificating on the moral quandary that college sports has become.

Yeah, I get it, the current model sucks. But if we want to compete then we have to play that game. That's the bare fucking minimum now.

And if we aren't willing to do that, then we should immediately drop down to FCS and be done with it.

precisely. Mediocrity survives here because we allow it. Anyone who doesn't tolerate mediocrity is labeled as an insatiable oaf who can't just enjoy the good things. We've gone from "why can't you just be happy we're ACC champs" to "why can't you just be happy to win 10 games" to "why can't you just be happy to go bowling" to "just shut up and be happy, we have a football team" in a span of 15 years. The folks who have been sounding the alarm the longest are the ones who saw this coming. Complacency grabbed the VT football program by the throat in the late '00s and choked it out. The BOV hasn't come to their senses yet. They haven't even woken up from losing the fight that they didn't even realize they were in.

I partially agree with this. The administration for sure became complacent.

Many fans I know have been screaming to deaf ears for a long, long time. We were just the suckers that tried to give more money thinking it would make a difference.

So we are going to price average people out of Higher Education so we can be competitive at football?? Just so we can pay a bunch of kids money to wear our uniform, when they can up and leave 6 months later?

Yeah...fuck that.

If that's what it takes to be competitive, then count me out.

This is college football, lets have some perspective. There are many, many vastly more important things in the World.

The University isn't going to collapse if the Football team sucks. VT was a laughing stock in Football for most of the 20th century and they didn't have to Board up Burress...the University thrived.

And its not just VT.
-UF - sucked at Football forever pre Spurrier
-Miami - mediocre to crap pre-Schnellenberger
-Kansas - awful more often than not...doors still open
-Iowa State - one of the worst FB programs historically...buildings are still standing

Having a good Athletic Program is clearly beneficial to a University as a whole but it's not an absolute make-or-break scenario, lets not be hyperbolic.

I dont think this situation is unique to VT. We're just feeling the inevitable crushing blow of what college football is turning into. I dont think there are very many schools that are going to be immune to this. They wont have teh long run decline we've had but I think a lot of schools will get hit with a massive quick decline that gets them stuck in this doom loop.

100% - Kansas State, Utah, Colorado, the Arizonas, NC State, etc all are in the same boat.

I dont mind Whit because i think he's elevated a lot of things here. He's whiffed on football which definitely outweighs all his gains but he's been trying to drag the school forward and it's happening but way too slowly for us to keep pace. I think that the basketball team might make some noise this year too which could recharge the fanbase.

I tend to agree with this. I don't think Whit is some genius, but I do think that he does better (given the circumstances) than people give him credit for

I think we'll know what we are going to be with the next hire.

Agreed

I'm sure we're hitting up our big donors to cover us for a big hire with a full and competent staff. Whether we can actually raise that money is up in the air. I would love to get someone with real head coaching experience in either the Big10 or SEC. Somebody young enough to understand and keep up with how this new game is being played and will bring a staff with real experience as coordinators.

Oof I think you're going to be underwhelmed. I think the best case is a saavy G5/FCS HC who brings in one elite/proven coordinator to run the side of the ball that they don't specialize in.

They need scrounge up all the money they can and hire the BEST staff they can. With he best chance to win quick. If they win us the ACC in year 3 and Bolt to the SEC oh well. Time to reload and hire the best staff you can to WIN then. "Will they be a VT guy for 10 years if they're successful" shouldn't even be a question the AD considers. Hire the staff to win and win now. And then do it again. We will always be a stepping stone for anybody that has any national relevance and thats OK.

Also. Fire anybody in Merryman that was employed by VT during the Beamer tenure. Dont care if it was the year he retired or the year he was hired. Time to clean slate. Even Bud shouldn't have an office there anymore. He deserves a statue beside Frank but its time to move on and this will give him more time to fish and smoke cigars. Also retire the 25 jersey its way past played out at this point.

Whenever the new staff comes in it should be a blank canvas. Give them the keys and two rules. Win games and nothing illegal. Thats it. If they cant reasonably be expected to do that they aren't the one.

Worse. At least midget wrestling can be entertaining to watch.

I dont think this situation is unique to VT. We're just feeling the inevitable crushing blow of what college football is turning into. I dont think there are very many schools that are going to be immune to this. They wont have teh long run decline we've had but I think a lot of schools will get hit with a massive quick decline that gets them stuck in this doom loop.

I think if Fuente had the resources that were given to Pry, he wouldve had a much better career here. Fuente got the resources that Frank was using which was already 10 years behind everybody else. Pry got good resources but VT is again about 10 years behind in fundraising and if we had a bigger budget, we wouldnt have had to scrape the bottom of the barrel for staff initially and a bigger NIL budget wouldve helped us keep or bring in more talent.

I dont mind Whit because i think he's elevated a lot of things here. He's whiffed on football which definitely outweighs all his gains but he's been trying to drag the school forward and it's happening but way too slowly for us to keep pace. I think that the basketball team might make some noise this year too which could recharge the fanbase.

I think we'll know what we are going to be with the next hire. I'm sure we're hitting up our big donors to cover us for a big hire with a full and competent staff. Whether we can actually raise that money is up in the air. I would love to get someone with real head coaching experience in either the Big10 or SEC. Somebody young enough to understand and keep up with how this new game is being played and will bring a staff with real experience as coordinators. In any case, we'll need the money to get us from now to 2028 or 2030 when FSU/Miami/Clemson all start realistically entertaining leaving the confererence. Today we seem toast, but how good we are up on the run up to those years is really what matters.

So what you are saying is that we are the Elvis of football

Lol. I think at this point we have died and fallen in the toilet ass first.

ummm...we didn't come here to play school