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# | Virginia Tech Confirms Torrian Gray Has Resigned, Expected to Take Same Position at Florida 
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I agree, recruiting can help cover weak spots, but the on field product will improve most when we get a better handle on developing our talent. As the on field product gets better, we will likely do better on the recruiting trail, maybe some of those big misses become wins. But even so, we will need to continue to develop that talent. Looking forward to seeing if the new staff light that fire and develop these players. Reinvigorate a stagnant program.
Exactly, Hokie Club money could also be used for more scholarships in other sports, better facilities etc. this freeing up increased revenue from this sports and facilities to pay for better coaches salaries.
Frank Beamer allowed the entire program to stagnate, from the top down.
Not a knock on Frank personally, he was a hell of a coach. But the fire, intensity, accountability and attention to detail evaporated over the last four years. We were going through the motions, even after shaking up the coaching staff when O'Cain and Newsome were released and Stinespring demoted. The problem post-Leoffler hire wasn't that we had bad coaches, it was that we were on cruise control.
I hate to say this, but expect to see more attrition, in terms of players and perhaps even more coaches. We are experiencing culture change at VT, and Fuente's intensity is not going to sit well with some people. Especially not people who are accustomed to being able to mail it in. I think we're about to witness the wheat being separated from the chaff.
They haven't been slammed because UNC is pretty adept at kicking the can down the road. There are set time limits for deliveries and responses but if UNC reports another violation the clock gets reset. Expect one more violation report which will put the response past March Madness.
As an example, I wouldn't be surprised if UNC reports that some football and women's basketball athletes were improperly diagnosed with ADHD/LD. This allowed them to substitute different required classes, allowed no time limit tests along with other extra academic help. Also the medical staff could then prescribe ritalin and adderall which the NCAA considers as performance enhancing drugs and are banned unless given a medical exemption.
According to UNC emails, in 2006/2007 61% of all the incoming freshman football and women's basketball athletes were diagnosed as ADHD/LD!
I completely agree about the player development. It is unrealistic to think we are going to start landing a boatload of 5* talent every year. But it's not the elite, cream-of-the-crop misses that are most concerning with recruiting. The overlooked, next tier down guys we used to depend on are being recruited more heavily now. We are sometimes down to our 3rd, 4th, and 5th options at various positions when signing day comes, and we are left scrambling for depth. Also, those under the radar guys are now being discovered thanks to technology, and recruiting has become way more competitive for them. I understand losing top recruits to the FSUs, Bamas, OSUs etc of the world. But we are losing in-state guys and a lot of our targets to Duke, UNC, and Pitt now. Those guys used to be the bread and butter of our program, and we can't even land them consistently.
So yes, I agree player development and evaluation must improve significantly. But we have to get more serious on the recruiting front. The 1990s are gone, and this fast-paced modern college football environment isn't going anywhere.
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# | Virginia Tech Confirms Torrian Gray Has Resigned, Expected to Take Same Position at Florida Yeah, I wasn't happy with the timing, but really, would a week ago have been better for these recruits? Some could have maybe found spots, but really there is no good time for a coach to leave.
Side note:
Didn't they say Hokie Club money was NOT going to salaries? Could it indirectly go to that by mitigating cost away from other areas?
Our Football program revenue is one of the largest in the ACC, but our recruiting budget is middling at best I posted this elsewhere but to get a better idea
SCHOOL / CONF. / FB RECRUITING $ / %CHANGE '09-'13 / $ PER WIN
Clemson / ACC /$617,524 / 35.9% / $52,702
Florida State / ACC /$425,796 / 50.6% / $34,219
Georgia Tech / ACC /$746,590 / -8.2% / $95,925
Louisville / ACC /$208,778 / -23.8% / $25,176
North Carolina / ACC /$539,392 / 3.2% / $76,074
North Carolina State /ACC /$514,380 / 44.9% / $53,291
Virginia / ACC /$299,730 / -4.2% / $59,604
Virginia Tech /ACC /$353,983 / 98.7% / $30,800
That would be a good thought except money allocated to coach pay was left on the table.
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# | Virginia Tech Confirms Torrian Gray Has Resigned, Expected to Take Same Position at Florida I think the biggest reason why people were upset is because of the timing, at least that was the factor that made me upset the most.
I have a quick comment:
Everyone complained about not having enough recruiting staff but then bitches that some staff took paycuts?
Where were we supposed to get the money from? If I understood correctly the VT football program was not at liberty/have the ability to spend a TON of money.
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# | Virginia Tech Confirms Torrian Gray Has Resigned, Expected to Take Same Position at Florida Thanks for the memories. Best of luck down there. You'll always be a Hokie, but we'll still have to beat you if we ever meet cuz DBU's right here at Virginia Tech. Ain't goin' nowhere!
I don't like the UNC example, they played a cupcake schedule and didn't look very good when they faced good teams. I think a more apt comparison is TCU, not only because Fuente is a Gary Patterson product, but because their on the field product is so successful with classes that are largely worse than VT historically.
I do not know why I laughed until I had tears in my eyes from this gif. Perfect!
The last interview I heard from Billy Hite before he retired was when he discussed turning a lot of the 3-star guys into 5 stars. He also talked about how much easier it was to develop the 3-star guys. There was definitely something missing in the last 5-6 years esecially in terms of development.
I'm hoping that the coaching change will make an impact in terms of development.
Michigan State- for me that is a model for what I want our program to look like. Irony is, VT was a model for Michigan State. Similar recruiting profile and a school that built it's foundation on winning the line of scrimmage and hammering people defensively.
Why did we not flip Fox? /s
That starts in these S&C sessions
I've heard from #sources (serious ones) that the old S&C didn't hold guys to their standards and key players missing workouts or not completeing them was a normal occurance. I look at the number of injuries we have had. It's not just S&C but injury prevention too. I'm glad he's gone, and I can't think of his name for the life of me.
As to your point of developing players I think you are spot on. Easy snapshot of this is Harbaugh at Michigan. He took Brady Hoke's guys and make them and 8-9 win team this year. Two (I think, at least against MSU) of those losses were heart breakers and shouldn't have happened. So one could argue they should have had at least 10 wins this season. But the point is he stopped the bleeding from Michigan football in less than a year and without a recruiting class of his own. Hopefully we see some similar results at VT with Fuente and staff. I'm not expecting us to win every game this year but if we are in the running for the ACCCG I'll be happy.
P.S. when does spring practice start?
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# | Virginia Tech Confirms Torrian Gray Has Resigned, Expected to Take Same Position at Florida Yeah, I think blaming anyone isn't really right. Its a good career move for TG, can't begrudge a guy a good career move.
He is the new WR coach, so I think my questions on D will likely be wasted. I have shared these with several folks. Keep in mind he isn't going to touch the Gray issue, no matter how much it comes up. Stick to the questions about the commits and the scheme. Hopefully Bud will address those other issues during his annual chalk talk.
1) What are the changes from the old regime in terms of the strength and conditioning off-season regiment? What are those changes designed to reinforce in terms on on the field performance (be it increased offensive tempo, different style of play etc.)
2) Do you have defined roles for receivers (boundary side vs field side split end, slot receiver, H-back vs true tight end?) How do the incoming freshmen (Kumah, Deablo, Denmark, Patterson) fit into each role? What route structures are absolutely critical to have success in your offense?
If no- what are the attributes he is looking for at the receiver spots? YAC, Size, Ability to make back shoulder throws. Try to get him to be specific. Not- we want football players/playmakers blah blah blah.
If yes, ask him to describe the fundamentals for how they use the slot receivers in the system.
3) What are the expectations for how Bucky Hodges will be used in the offense? Will he be used outside as a receiver more often, or inside as an H-back and slot receiver?
4) Based on your review so far, how do Ford and Phillips fit into the offense, and what areas do they need to improve at to work well in your system?
And, be sure to scoff and harumph loudly every time some codger asks a stupid question. That way the room gets the full French experience!
What about Chris Scott? He coaches at Bishop Sullivan and it would definitely help attract all the studs from that area. That would be a huge approach to 757 recruits.
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# | Virginia Tech Confirms Torrian Gray Has Resigned, Expected to Take Same Position at Florida Question: ymmv, Your Mileage May Vary?
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# | Virginia Tech Confirms Torrian Gray Has Resigned, Expected to Take Same Position at Florida Glad you enjoyed it. Was gonna post it up if there would've been a "Uva loss rant thread". Thankfully that did NOT happen (thank you Isaiah Ford).
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# | Virginia Tech Confirms Torrian Gray Has Resigned, Expected to Take Same Position at Florida Damn, I was hoping to listen to him in Roanoke; the brief videos I've seen of him reminds me of Wiles. But we'll get Cornelsen
Could we talk about the screen grab they used on Twitter for this? What professional organization sends that out with the red underline for "misspelled" words under it?