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If winning is that important, the $$ would have been flowing into VT's athletic program coffers during the 10 win streak, no?

It doesn't hurt, but the impact of winning alone is relatively small. As is having a "sexy" offense... these days who doesn't have a sexy offense?

Right but that doesn't really address the point FLA is trying to make.

If what you're saying is true (and it is), why did we recruit him so hard if we knew 1) he/his fam wanted the twins to stick together, but 2) we had no bid for his brother? By that reasoning, either the Baileys didn't make that desire clear, or the staff ignored it.

I'm completely fine with not burning two schollys on one player - but the "who knew what when" aspect re his brother is valid re recruiting. Any of us who follow recruiting knew he had a twin that he wanted to play with - so given that info...

EDIT: VTJ12 beat me to it. With clarity and relative brevity.

Didn't say we should have offered him, but we should have done more digging. We know the guy has a Twin Brother with an offer to ISU---you have to consider that and try to determine how important it is for them to play together.

If it is a big deal (which obviously it was) then you have to consider either offering both or backing off both. We made TWO in-homes---sit down with the mother and ask her.

The larger and more over-arching problem here is the inability of the D-staff (Gray excluded) to sell recruits. Having only one DE in an entire class seems totally inexcusable, especially given our lack of depth at the position.

No, I'm not saying that at all. I don't think anything was intentionally malicious, but I definitely think he used VT as a way to generate more intrigue in his decision. I don't think he really loved VT but was suddenly swayed this morning by a talk with his family. I think he liked VT but knew he wanted to play with his brother and it was important to his family. If he did make a silent commit to Fuente and turn on that this morning, shame on us for not doing our homework a bit better.

With Ford's ability to make space and get open deeper (10,15, 20 Yards),do you think Fuente with likely add more deeper passes?

What is an example of how spending money would help VT recruiting?

What are we proposing to do now that we do not have funding for?

Holy jeez are you looking at his profile?

Coached by Bobby Humphries at Palatka ... Named to the 2015 Second Team 5A All-State Football – Linebacker – after racking up 163 tackles, 93 unassisted – and forced three fumbles in nine games ... Named the 2015 Putnam All-County MVP ... Was a four-year varsity starter and a three-time all-county linebacker ... Also wrestled, earning the 2015 Palatka Daily News Wrestler of the Year Award, and was on the track team in high school, winning district, region and state titles in both the shot put and discus as a junior ... had offers from Air Force, Army, UCF and more.

http://www.hokiesports.com/football/2016recruits/carter_eron.html

That's football, wrestling, and track. Can't wait to see him in action.

Wiles is a big reason why we have such an impact in Florida. Most of the Del Ray Beach recruits we've gotten over the years was because of Wiles' relationship with the coaches down there. We wouldn't have had Clowney, Flowers, Hosley, Leal, Dadi, or Maddy without Wiles.

People aren't confused, they just think you're overreacting. Sure "the biggest weight" may have been lifted, but that was never going to pay immediate dividends. The people signing today are the ones they've been talking to for the past 2 years or so, you can't undo all of that in 2 months. Or, even more difficult, the people signing today have had us on their radar for only the past 2 months, in which case we were in a severe disadvantage already. It's ok to not be thrilled, but acting like this signing day tells us anything we didn't know a week ago is misguided.

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!

The #1 factor in recruiting is athletic program financial resources. Coaches and offensive systems, etc are very minor factors in the long term. Winning certainly helps improve the balance sheet but there's a lot more to donations and revenues than simply winning a few more games.

eh...I think you have to win to get the money flowing TBH. People want to watch a team that is fun to watch and wins games. Win games in an exciting fashion and you'll get more butts in seats. That's a bump in revenue. Get more butts in seats and more bandwagon fans and you'll start to sell more merchandise. That's another bump in revenue. By winning you become a household name and a commodity that people want to pay money to associate with. That will help recruiting. So you're right, more revenue in the system will help but I think we have to start playing an attractive brand of football and winning games to get that ball rolling.

Right, but what the OP is asking is why we continued to heavily pursue Jaquan and exhaust resources on him if we knew he would only go to a school that also offered his brother. We either knew and thought we could get him anyway, or we should have known.

If you could compare this year's class to one of our previous classes, as far as talent and potential # of contributors, which would you choose?

So you think that, on the biggest day of this kid's LIFE thus far, his focus was

"Let's stick it to Virginia Tech."

Not me. The most I'm willing to concede is that he used some VT gear to make the announcement more of a surprise.

(& if that's the case? JaQuan, HOW ABOUT A PLAIN BLACK HOODIE BRUH)

In all of the garment wringing here I haven't taken time out of my day to laugh at UVA.

I hope their signing day has been awful.

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