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Why haven't we seen this yet ....!??!!
Mike Vick's contract is up with the Eagles ... he left VT after his redshirt sophomore season ... Kevin Jones is currently a grad student in Blacksburg with a year of eligibility left ... Bruce Smith is already on the sidelines at every game ... it is all coming together now ... Lets do this. GO HOKIES!!!!
Excellent points, but would like to add Josh Hyman was a pretty big piece of the Royal-Morgan-Hyman-Harper WR group who rarely gets as much love as he should.
It looked to me as if Loeffler was trying to get Thomas I to the swing of an option run game. A couple times it looked like he would get it with just a little more game speed practice but never did.
Thomas had a tendency to keep the ball. With a better grasp on the option The RB would get the ball more.
To sum it up. I don't think it was Loeffler that kept the ball out of the RB hands, I think it was QB decisions in the run option that did that, for several reasons, some of them good ones.
Alright, now I can agree with you. The transition to Logan was easier because of the people around him. He had Danny Coale, Jarrett Boykin, David Wilson, Blake DeChristopher, and several other proven players. Logan was the only question mark. Now we have a few more question marks due to influx of talent that is possibly better than what we already have. But that shouldn't be held against Ford/Durkin/McMillian. That's an issue for the whole team, not a knock on any of their abilities. Unfortunately, the media doesn't see it that way as we saw in Logan getting ripped apart after the Bama game when our receivers couldn't catch a cold. But we should all be able to see, thanks to Joe, French, and the many knowledgeable people here on TKP, that those guys have the skills to succeed.
I can listen to many types of music, and country is one of them. Country's got some great music, especially patriotic/military songs. Arlington by Trace Adkins as an example, gets me every time.
I think your memory with Druck is quite rose colored. Yes, he was the 16th pick but everyone I knew at school with me at that time all groaned because everyone knew he should have been a 5th round at best. The 49ers took him because of his size and strength hoping he would be another Jim Kelly, despite scouting reports stating that he had serious questions at understanding the game at the NFL level and very limited mobility. They took a gamble and lost. You're also forgetting that Druck went Fork Union. When he arrived at VT he was already further along than Ford and Durkin. Had he arrived at the same age as they did there would be no way he wins the job because a) no Div 1 school offered him a scholarship out of high school; b) mentally, both in intelligence to understand the game and maturity, he was not at Ford, Durkin, McMillian current level; and c) while he had a cannon and a quick release he needed a lot of work on dumps and shorter passing routes which the Fork Union coaches concentrated on with him.
I am not trying to knock the guy. He was great for VT and I personally had a lot of fun watching his crazy antics while out and about in Bburg, but he simply was not at the same level as a true freshman.
As for your 2nd point, I don't disagree. I am not saying that a true freshman is going to be the starter only that you should be a bit more excited about the crop of QBs we have been able to land this year. It literally has never been better as a class of Qbs coming into VT. (Individually Mike and Tyrod are better of course) Personally I think Motley is going to surprise a lot of people and perhaps a transfer is a great answer to next year.
Point is, no need to be so negative. these are all good things.
I agree with everything you said, but with regards to your 4th point, by the end of the season, we knew Trey had talent and he had game experience. But he was getting fewer carries. He had 20+ carries in each of the first three games, but after that he never got more than 15. My only criticism of Loeffler this past season was he made Logan unnecessarily shoulder a disproportionate work load, and underutilized Edmunds. Looking back, I still feel the same way. The 6 carries against Boston College and 12 against Duke were/are particularly worrisome.
I don't know this, but I feel like if Edmunds had been featured more he could have very easily been a 1000 yard back, and again, in my opinion, I think Thomas would have benefited from not having to put the entire team on his back every game (see 2011).
But as you mentioned, there does seem to be a lot Loeffler is doing right. He very well may be an outstanding offensive coordinator--I'm just not completely sold...yet.
Well, it was one very miraculous completion.....
Valid point, there certainly was more calm at handing the reigns to LT. Maybe it also had something to do with #4 in the backfield next to him.
Dude is a legend here in KY. A true competitor and has a great sense of humor too. Also was a backup QB for Giants and Colts for a while.
from that era. Not a country fan (not that there's anything wrong with that)
this does little to change that for me.
I hadn't seen any of it until last month when I decided to start from Season 1. I'm in the middle of season 5 now, love how the show has plenty of action (gunfire, fights, etc.) and doesn't stray away from killing off sigificant characters if it means keeping a good plot. Which keeps you from thinking 'well, same old same old, he's gonna find a way out because he plays a big enough role'.
That was a great dissection of Cam Phillips. He does have a bright future and will give much needed help to the next Hokie QB. His techniques are sound and he knows how to create separation from the DB and beat man-to-man coverage. After an off-season work with coach Moorehead and going against hokies DBs, Cam has the potential to get better and become a match-up nightmare for opposing teams.
French, you seem to know about both the offense and defensive sides of the ball, if you were a coach, which one would you prefer?
Well, I guess I still like him.
You are really playing the negative card while also contradicting yourself. You are saying that none of the kids of the talent to be the 16th draft pick and yet you say that the holes in their game may improve with time in the program. You're trying to project something that is 3-5 years away for these kids. You are using stats without support. Durkin may not have lit things up in high school throwing but I believe his high school also ran the ball much more than pass it. I believe we can say that Ford has an average arm strength. He's not a gunslinger and can't throw the ball 60 yards flat footed like Logan did in the College All-Star Competition, but he doesn't have to be. I'm not quite sure where the doom and gloom is coming from, but there should be no reason not to be excited about the possibilities these kids bring.
Why was the transition from Tyrod to Logan any easier? Just because we knew he was our only option? Or because he completed 1 pass against Miami? It seems that the reason for your despair lies in the fact that we have multiple options and not a single candidate. While I understand that you may be worried with uncertainty, that sort of competition will lead to the best thing we can produce, not just working with what we have.
Personally I prefer the Epson PowerLite series. I think that overall every model is extremely well reviewed. Not to say the BenQ isn't but I've never had experience with it.
I think that's fair, the whole premise to the argument is flawed. How can you possibly compare the career of Jim Druckenmiller to the tr-Fr seasons of Ford and Durkin? And why should you to start with?
My point has always been that we enter 2014 in the worst shape for QB play (for that season) that we have since Mike left us in the lurch with Noel. We have always had either logical transitions (DeShazo-Druck-Clark-Vick, Randall-Marcus, Tyrod-LT) or we have had talent that has made it work (Tyrod) when it wasn't so logical. I just see a murky transition and I don't see the talent, for 2014, to just play us out of it.
We need to lean on the running game.
While this is extremely off topic I'm in a similar predicament. I would appreciate any knowledge on projectors and/or screens. Thanks for posting this Eddie Royal.
We're going to win it with Bucky Hodges and Kalvin Cline
It looked more like 47.3 to me, but what do I know.
If he can come in and beat out the guys we have, I have no issue with it.
me too, but as a victim or a member?
I still get the feeling that Marty's eldest daughter is going to be involved in the cult somehow.
Two points:
Jim Druckenmiller was the 16th pick in the NFL draft. There is not a kid on our roster next year at QB who has the talent to be the 16th draft pick in the NFL draft. Druck also led us to 2 (pre)BCS bowls. Say what you will about his intellect or his NFL career, but the dude is/was accomplished. These four don't sniff Druck if he's in camp, but as you said, that is considering his finished career....which brings us to point number two...
I wouldn't start Druck as a tr-Fr either. Durkin or Ford may become starting QB's later in their careers, but I really think we should pump the breaks on what either can be next year. This isn't Christian Hackenberg here. Both of these kids have significant holes in their games (Ford's arm strength, Durkin's passing experience) that may improve with time in the program. It is unrealistic to assume that either will produce even average results as tr-Fr. We may play Durkin as a change-of-pace guy, but I'm not sure that is in his best interest or the best interest of the offense. He's gotta learn how to throw the ball, he threw for something like 1100 yards, combined, in his HS career. Ford needs to beef up and develop some arm strength, (although I never think he will have even average arm strength, he's going to have to learn to Ken Dorsey it and that comes with lots of reps and talent everywhere).
Both are classic redshirt candidates. If they are playing, something has gone wrong.
So go get a transfer if you can.
Yeah, I was in school in the 90's too and remember the Druck stories. He was everywhere. He was an idiot, but he made plays. I certainly loved that era.
Comparatively, Andrew Ford is the complete opposite of Jim Druckenmiller in pretty much every capacity of his game and, seemingly, his life.