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for one game. Look at uva this weekend. Look at the inexplicable 2005 meltdown vs. Miami, then the next week blowout @ uva.

Furthermore, the last two games, VT has held significant statistical advantages over two good teams.... and...... we've been blown out. That's a lot of bad bounces, poorly time penalties, execution errors that can be turned around quickly.

I think we will play very well versus FSU, but we need them to play poorly to mediocre to actually win. If they play well, we'll just have a good loss on our record.

If you really meant Bill Stewart, allow me to show you the door. Haha, kidding. But seriously. No 'neer coaches allowed.

Bet ol Herbie is proud of his pick of LT3 over Klein as top duel-threat QB this season! LMAO!

An upset would be the most inexplicable win for in the entire history of VT Football. A team that has struggled in every phase of the game, and in the intangibles (i.e. motivation and leadership).

If having a losing record this season means making the right changes in our coaching and approach to college football, then so be it.

It would be a great, inexplicable win for this team. A team that has struggled in every phase of the game, and in the intangibles (i.e. motivation and leadership).

I would be shocked to see us win this one. If having a losing record this season means making the right changes in our coaching and approach to college football, then so be it.

it was 7-3, we had dominated and were losing. I missed Dukes big KO return right after that.

Instead, we watched Melancholia, a totally bizarre Lars von Trier movie. Kirsten Duntz was hot at times, very much not hot at others. But it was a good movie because it stuck with me.

Then, I rejoined my own melancholia and watched the last 3 minutes of the game.

I think we'll do the same tomorrow, its just not worth the emotional commitment to watch games live anymore.

We have seen this scenario played out at FSU, Penn State, Michigan, and Tennessee. Ultimately, the long term coach becomes surrounded with yes men, and either the administration forces the head coach out or forces changes.

At the same time, it is a tricky proposition. While Jimbo Fisher has started to turn the corner with Florida State, Tennessee forced out Phil Fulmer and the result was Lane Kiffen and Derrick Doolander. The grass isn't always greener. The question that Virginia Tech boosters and Jim Weaver has to ask when they start stepping on Beamer's toes is, do you accept that being an ACC contender is enough, or do you kick the can and go high risk in an attempt to be a true national power?

Ultimately, we have to hope that Beamer has the competative streak and the humble nature to recognize that his pals are not cutting the mustard, and that he is on a path to derailing all that he has worked for. 2010 was really the first red flag. There was no reason for that team to lose a game, but Foster was lazy recruiting and suddenly there was no defensive line. Then offensively, the three running back rotation never should have happened and made the running game inconsistant. Last year, Clemson passed them by. Now it looks like FSU and UNC are passing them by.

We need to go back to being the bully. Playing in Lane Stadium, the opponent should know that the Hokies are going to beat you up running the football, and hit you harder than any other team you play when you have the ball. That has not happened this season.

The comparison to FSU's decline may be the part of this that disheartens me the most, since I can't disagree with you. Sad to see how this season has gone and the possible future of the program.

And speaking of this season, I echo the sentiments of PhillyHokie007: "I am having trouble watching games without fear of having an aneurysm..." And I'll go further - I'll be completely honest and say I haven't watched an entire game since the opener with GT. Part of this is because of a schedule that hasn't allowed me to watch some of the games, but the ones I have watched, I'm forced to change the channel in order to keep my blood pressure at a reasonable level.

The thing that always sticks out to me when I do watch is the disinterest and passionless play of many members of this team. I enjoy watching guys like Gayle, Jarrett, & Knowles because I feel like they're giving 100% no matter the score. Hell, I know Exum hasn't played up to expectations, but you can at least tell he's trying. I just find it hard to support this team at the moment because it doesn't seem like most care... I don't care if we lose, but at least show some fire. I don't know if it's a result of no confidence in the playcalling or lack of execution, but it's clear to me that Beamer has lost control of this team, and that to me signals a need for change.

Whew, that felt good to get out... rant over for now.

this entire season i've thought that were turning into fsu during bowden's last few years. it's scary how similar it's looking. it really has me worried. i don't want the bad press i don't want the loosing seasons. like you've said some coaching changes have to come and soon

I may be an idiot but I think we can win this thing tomorrow night. I am so excited, wish I could start tailgating now.

#ALLMAROONEVERYTHING

How is that even a question?

Thursday night in Blacksburg... HECK YES

You have to, we need you.

#ALLMAROONEVERYTHING.

Sad but true.

There isn't much more irritating than seeing Holmes back receiving punts when Jarrett is so dynamic at it.

Actually I think you're wrong about the boosters. I was at my son's football game a few weeks back and was talking with a couple who are contributors to the program and the wife told me that her son-in-law (who's a coach at Hargrave) is real good friends with Cornell Brown and that Cornell told him that nobody's job is safe on the staff. I've heard the same thing from other people too and also that it's being taken out of Coach Beamer's hands. Whether it happens or not we'll see.

I just don't believe that Frank Beamer has the will or the strength to make the necessary changes. I agree with French that basically what happened at FSU is happening here and maybe what happened with the Head-Coach-in-waiting is going to have to happen here also. Not saying I want it to, especially with how it turned out at FSU but it may just have to be so. The reason I say that is do you really believe that Frank is going to make sweeping changes to his coaching staff? Nothing he's said or done this season or in the past leads me to believe that. In fact I've heard that the only reason he made staff changes after the '92 season was because the administration put pressure on him. Because of his success he has a lot more power now, probably even more so than Weaver. And do you believe that he will allow an outside OC to come in and be autonomous without being forced to? Also you know that whoever the OC is they're going to want to bring in their own staff, which Beamer also will not like.

As far as what staff changes I'd want to make I could live with the whole offensive staff being fired except Shane. Move 'em out! Completely cleanse the program of the old guard. Yes Stiney is a good recruiter but if we get a competent OC and offense recruiting will take care of itself. Make Shane the ST coach and Frank can be the CEO.

I'd also like to see a complete overhaul of the program. First of all we need a new AD who's willing to spend the money and do what it takes to get VT where it should be. I'd also like to see a culture change back to what VT used to be all about (i.e., hardwork, chip on the shoulder, discipline, pride etc.). I've watched Kansas State this season and I think OMG that's what VT used to be and SHOULD be!! (Can we kidnap Bill Stewart and bring him to VT? No? Didn't think so). I'd also like to see a change in how we promote the program to increase our fanbase. I've heard at different times that we don't have a big fanbase (or as big as other programs) and I wonder with the popularity of our program why that is?

Sorry that I have a very hard time being positive when we suck, maybe that's just a me thing. And I stand by my Holmes statement - I never said he hasn't done anything right, I said he hasn't contributed to the success of our program. Running hard against gt and playing well in a loss isn't contributing to our programs success in my opinion. MD's two touchdowns in a unc win that kept us undefeated in acc play in 2010 (same year we won the ACC) and MD's monster game in a 38-0 blowout that locked up the coastal and has helped our recruiting efforts in VA #wyattTeller, is a contribution. Lastly, I don't think every comment I post should be judged by my previous negative comments, especially when I actually gave Beamer and co credit. Don't block me from the site Joe, I'll stop commenting though.

This is a great post. I remember my first (and so far, only) Thursday night game in Blacksburg. It was the Matty Ice Miracle in Blacksburg, but regardless of the outcome, that atmosphere was ELECTRIC the entire night. Granted, we were #8, they were #2 and we had the chance to make a serious run at a National Title, but anyhow.

I think the fanbase will show up loud and proud. Let's go beat FSU. #ALLMAROONEVERYTHING.

I hate f$u, please punch them in the mouth. That is all.

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