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The first counter point is that we've never recruited a safety as talented as Holland Fisher.

The second counter point is that it seems Bud is playing more and more man coverage, with our safeties lining up and running with tight ends and slot WRs. Can Holland do this? I don't know. But it seems more likely he'll see playing time in a man on man defense versus a complex zone.

I have a feeling your wish will come true no matter if the coaches decide it or not. I think that hit on Roberts last week will be keeping him down for at least one game.

We need a senior class that announces in August:

We're here to win, we're not screwing around with the uniforms. We'll wear maroon jerseys with white pants at home. We'll wear white jerseys and maroon pants on the road. We wear maroon helmets. We're done with this conversation.

(That said, this is a red herring. Ask Team Nike from Eugene. 578 different combinations, and an ass whipping every game)

French - Thanks again for an outstanding post.

Any observations with regards to the mechanics of Logan this week? I know we focused mostly on the bad, but he was pretty damn accurate throughout the entire game so I'm wondering if the kinks were worked out.

Always good when we can take someone out from under Saban's nose.

and these points came up all summer. Fenway was an event, a place to be seen, Sweet Caroline, et.al.

Lane is the same way. When I was in school in the mid-90's, Lane was hungry. It was 45,000 people who had never been respected for anything. Our teeth bled during games.

I sense that its different now. We wear cute uniforms, have fireworks for field goals, see our buddies and complain about Stinespring. All the while, our opponents love playing in Famed Lane Stadium, and get more excited about it than our own players do.

The fire is gone.

Cole has some upside -- but Bonner, considering his experience and time in the system, is very unimpressive and seems to really half-ass it out there .. I'll give Cole a little credit and I'm sure he's trying and will get better. A lot have said that he is better suited for whip. I don't know that our lack of depth over the next season or two will allow him to make a move.

think he likes bama but most think he's still very strong vt commit .. not too worried, especially considering our success (historically) with the secondary positions and likely early PT.

There are words here, but I do not comprehend.

Our top 7 are good and can play with most of our league. But, it's only 7 players (+ JVZ, who could become useful this year...or not). Obviously, we will have to remain healthy and maintain the pace of play to suit our depth issues.

But, there will be games where those 7 players click and we play very, very well. The OOC schedule also isn't a bear, I could see us hit ACC play with only 2 loses.

or we could have a couple of broken feet and win 8 games total.

" ... while the Hokie offensive line, especially the interior linemen, and the tight ends stood straight up with dead feet and were knocked backwards all game long."

This has been a characteristic of Curt Newsome's offensive lines ever since he's been in Blacksburg. They have always been, and they remain, fundamentally unsound.

There's nothing that would improve our offensive line as much right now as about 10 hours on the blocking sled.

Outside of the obvious lack of emotion and execution, I saw two of the biggest bonehead plays I have ever seen. First, the QB should never forget the snapcount and second, never jump off sides on a special teams play. The kick return and offsides on the FG were huge momentum swings and really set the tone for the rest of the game on what was otherwise a stellar start. Also, we need to ditch the nickel package and play RVD or JGW. Michael Cole might set a NCAA record for missed tackles (if that stat existed), although to his credit he flys up and is in position most of the time. On a positive note, Logan looked really good (with the exception of the two overthrows in the redzone), we have found a stud in Demetri Knowles and exum bounced back and finally looked like a corner. I think this team can still be successful if the coaches finally start our 3 best interior linemen and never again play the nickle package. Time will tell if we have the leadership in the locker room to make this season respectable (which doesn't seem to be the case on the field).

One last rant. I think Marcus Davis exemplifies this team so far this year. He is a veteran player with great upside who has no focus, leadership, effort, or execution. Despite his countless drops this season, I find it odd that LT has far more chemistry with Corey Fuller and Demetri Knowles than Davis. I wouldn't mind seeing the younger receivers start taking some of Davis' snaps and if I don't see Knowles start over Roberts something in my house will be broken.

I think maybe the phantom holding call was too much for him to bear. Broke his spirit and his shoulder.

In all seriousness though, hope he gets better.

that none of our secondary is great in man-to-man and really need an extra GOOD man in zone to offset the liabilities. i know they're trying to get away from nickel (based on what i've read) but that's a double-edged sword. if we do, we'd better blitz and get to the qb fast. what we need:

- play nickel with fuller, exum, rvd, jarrett, cole/bonner as the secondary << put bonner/cole in a position where they could hurt us the least

- tariq edwards back

- bt back at mike

- our defensive line to get SOME FUCKING PRESSURE!!!!! get someone in there who can pressure ... harley, dadi ... get the dead weight off the field.

- shore up tackling .. i watched the game and with layman's eyes, couldn't believe the piss-poor tackling that i see some of guys doing .. fundamental football that i learned at 10 yrs old .. what happened to "breakdown!!! tackle at the belly button" i understand the attack mentality but with some athletes (like gio) in the open field, you break down and get the fucking tackle, even if that means giving him another yard or two..run full speed ahead, slowing down as you get to the ballcarrier and wait on him.

I'm not sure, I feel like I've seen it elsewhere but I could be mistaking it for seeing it at NFL stadiums... I don't think many college teams do it.

However, I do think that it's weird that we set off fireworks just for going into overtime... I didn't notice that on the broadcast.

He was a good shooter, but he must've shot at least 3 floaters every game and I can't remember him making a single one.

Then, with financial backing, maybe you guys could start to produce some T-Shirts with the same design as the banner of the site, and some of the highlights of the site (MascotMock, Photo Primer, In-Depth Film Analysis)... You can make money from selling the shirts and at the same time, you have walking advertisements to bring new people to the community.

I think Manning will be a starter, probably in the next few weeks. I know he looked awful for three straight plays against Cincy, but he (unfortunately) admitted he just wasn't mentally ready. Physically, I think he can play and we'll see him in there soon.

I agree that Kyle Fuller is serviceable as a CB, but is better utilized in a position where he can freelance more. Jarrett seems to have settled in at a safety position.

to decide the Division champs. That could make the schedule pretty hectic. It would probably mean having the semifinals the first weekend of December and the Championship game the second weekend of December, but it would be good national exposure with the limited number of games, would offer Heisman hopefuls playing in the games the opportunity to showcase their stuff and be another bit to negotiate with ESPN to possibly get some of the third tier football rights back.

I want our current recruiting class to keep every commitment and come in next year, some start, and help us get better especially on defense. side note: I hope Vincent, Kyle, Corey, and Kendall all have sons that play for the Hokies, or next year starts the end of an era.

I want Logan to learn from this year and I want our coaching staff to figure out their next move so we can get an offensive identity back and let Logan get back to being #LT3forHeisman.

Like offense, the defense needs to get its identity back. I don't know if the gap D just won't work against the spread or if we just don't have the players. Thinking more of the latter and that takes me back to paragraph 1.

I hope we go to a bowl. A mid level bowl at least but I'll take any bowl.

If there was a garenteed number of losses that would cause coaching change. I want to beat UVa no matter what, but at this point I'd rather go 5-7 and lose the bowl streak than 6-6 in the crap.com bowl if that's what it takes to get some new offensive coaches.

Also does anyone know who has the lunch pail this year? I'm assuming someone does, but at this point Bud should take it and refuse to let any player have it until someone on this defense steps up and becomes a leader

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