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Franklin and Pry go back many years and had great success together. Pry's father coached Franklin in college. They know each other and can move forward with their strategies instead of focusing on getting to know each other. This will accelerate the transition.

If anything, the fact that all of these new faces are in it suggests that it's possible for VT to realistically have a shit at getting into the club. That wasn't true just a few years ago. So it does directly affect VT.

We haven't gotten the "Welcome Home" graphic from the athletic department, but every single news outlet is reporting it.

I have the same fears as many about Pry as a coach. Given our history with Corn, I understand the fear about him being Franklin's buddy.

But I don't think Franklin is doing a friend a favor here: I think he's picking his preferred DC for the job. Failing at VT has the potential to send Franklin's career the way of Justin Fuente. Winning at VT has the potential to send Franklin to a top 5 job in the country.

I think he'll pick the guy he thinks is going to be the most beneficial.

I have less than no sympathy for ND in this mess. The ACC has no obligation to kiss your ass in football. You proudly thumps your chests about not being a member of the conference in the one sport we need you to join most, so fuck you for thinking we won't promote our own over you when it benefits us.

And if that is enough to get you to abandon us in all other sports, good. You don't bring much in the other sports as it is, go be someone else's problem.

The schools that get the 5 stars are still the same

The last tweet in this thread: "SEC signed less than half of the 5-stars. 21 schools signed a 5-star. All-time record."
Your perception is factually wrong.

giving us some fresh faces to look at on the national stage come playoff time?

Indiana is literally the #1 overall seed. Texas Tech is #4 and may have the best or second best defense in the field. Ole Miss had it's best season ever. A&M has never won a national championship before. Literally half the field, 7 of 12, is new blood (JMU, Tulane, Indiana, Texas Tech, A&M, Ole Miss, Oregon). The other 5 are schools that have won it all before. That's a massive change from the 4-team playoff which was usually the same 4 or 5 teams. Indiana, Texas Tech, A&M, and Oregon could all win it this year. If that's not "fresh faces" to you I don't think you'll ever be satisfied.

Why would I care what the data says unless I could tell for myself that it was either a) directly affecting VT

This is the College Football as a whole thread, not the orange and maroon glasses VT fan thread.

This pod released last night is a good listen. I was not thrilled with it when I first heard it, but I am ok with it now. This pod had a lot to do with that.

Was there too-great game in blowing light snow; the 15k Hokie fans far louder than the 70k ND fans!

What's the longest domino effect we have going on? Where a string of schools needs to find a new head coach because the previous one got hired away elsewhere?

So far, I see a couple sets of three:
Colorado State took UCONN who took Toledo
PSU took Iowa State who took Washington State
Arkansas took Memphis who took Southern Miss

In all cases, that last job is still vacant.

You're definitely missing DC/LB Jack Tyler currently the DC at East Texas A&M

but if we're also just going on anyone who's coached here
OC/OL/TE Jeff Grimes
OL Vance Vice
OC/QB Scot Loeffler
CB/S Justin Hamilton
OC/QB Brad Glenn
OL Joe Rudolph
WR/RB Zohn Burden
CB/S Ryan Smith
DL Charley Wiles

Every game, we gripe about the refs. Every single solid game, every single sport, every single season.
I yelled at the refs every VT basketball game I attended, yelled at the stripes at football and the umps in baseball.

I'm sick of it, frankly.

You're basing your analysis off of what he did here as a head coach and yes he hired the defensive staff, but it wasn't his defense.
It's like saying "i need a really good punt returner but i don't want Devin Hester because he wasn't a very good wide receiver "...

"Can't you just trust that I'm a really really good defensive coordinator?" ~ Brent Pry

I have several friends in Columbia who watched this game on TV and weren't aware that this had happened.

Unless you went to the game the TV coverage missed it entirely. I was watching a different game with a later half-time break; it seemed like every other channel showing highlights was all over it!

Honestly, I've wondered what would happen if a team had Fuente as OC and Pry as DC. As long as Corn was no where near that staff.

Potentials, assuming any VT link and under the age of 60

OC/OL/TE - Tyler Bowen
DL - Cornell Brown
OC/QB - Brad Cornelson
DC/LB - Todd Grantham
DB - Torrian Gray
DB - Kysheon Jarrett
OC/RB - Adam Lechtenberg
DB- Anthony Midget
DB - Brian Mitchell
WR - Aaron Moorehead
DC/LB - Tyrone Nix
WR/RB - Kevin Sherman
OC/TE/OL - Brian Stinespring
DL - Darryl Tapp
OC/WR - Holmon Wiggins

I'm not seeing a world class staff out of that.

Notre Dame just straight took their ball and went home.

In more ways than one. Notre Dame is currently the holder of "the belt", or the lineal championship of college football.

The last time the belt missed the postseason was actually pretty recent- 5-7 Pitt beat #2 Miami and proceeded to watch the postseason from home in 2017.

Both of these occurrences are highly abnormal. The belt has been up for grabs in 13 of the last 25 National Championship games.

Holt is so bad. The punt protection has gotten sooo many nearly blocked punts and then we cant even cover. Somehow we are also the only team who return every kickoff and I awear our average starting field position must be the 12 yard line.

Really not trying to be a dick in saying this, but so what?

The P2 is breaking away in a few years. Most 5 star recruits still go to the same handful of schools. The schools that get the 5 stars are still the same ones that are truly in play for the national championship year in and year out.

Why would I care what the data says unless I could tell for myself that it was either a) directly affecting VT or b) giving us some fresh faces to look at on the national stage come playoff time?

It's doing neither. We've cracked open the warchest recently, which is great, but that was VT deciding to try and lift its own fortunes, nothing more. I'll be rooting for whoever wins JMU-Oregon, and hoping everyone else loses.

It's not true parity until at least half the playoff field are teams I'm not sick of seeing in there. We ain't there yet.

Thank you so much. I know you've been through a lot too brother

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