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I can relate to this very well...right after the Michigan game. And for days after. Then weeks. I STILL sometimes fume about that loss. But I finally did come to the realization too that it really doesn't effect my life at all, unless I allow it to. I don't want my mood to be altered by one single football game that didn't turn out the way I want...however easy it might be to let that happen.

I too am SUPER excited for the upcoming season!!! No matter what happens Hokie Nation, let's stay loyal and keep cheering on our beloved team no matter the outlook or situation!!!

Is there anything in particular that says that ND can't play the ACC champ in a bowl game? I would think that ND vs VT in Atlanta and Boise vs ASU in Phoenix are much better matchups from a regional standpoint. ND-VT would sell out pretty quickly.

I can understand that. So many questions, so few answers! For example:

  1. How many schools, before this incident, knew that VT took away bowl money/gifts as punishment, didn't do it themselves, and used it against us in recruiting?
  2. How many recruits have shied away from VT, or flipped from VT, as a result of hearing VT did the bowl game stuff?
  3. How often did it even happen? I have heard a few instances of the riding the bus back penalty, but nothing ever money/gift related.

Someone inside the program told me that the players only receive money on the bowl trip for meals not provided as a team and for mileage when not travelling with the team (e.g. from their home). So AFAIK they aren't getting say $100 (speaking solely in terms of cash; I believe they do get gift cards that I seem to remember some players using on needy families/children?) and the coaches are like "Go nuts at Best Buy!" or something like that.

Anyways, I would hope that the players we are recruiting hard are ones who would understand the difference between being told "VT will take your bowl money/gifts from you just willy-nilly." and our coaches saying "You follow the rules and show up on time and work hard, you won't have anything taken from you and you will get to enjoy all the perks of being a student-athlete." If a recruit is thinking "Man, if I screw up then VT is going to take my money...I better go to X where they won't take anything," then I would argue they probably wouldn't have been a good fit for VT anyways.

Finally, I also really hope that none of our VT boosters would ever try to pay one of our players (unless there is a circumstance where it is allowed by NCAA rules) and further that none of our players would be stupid enough to take it. And I am using the term "stupid" lightly here...I understand throughout history there have been many cases where personal/family poverty outweigh rules or thinking correctly. But hopefully VT has a good system in place to make sure that kind of desperation doesn't happen.

Also took a bus to Miami.

In fact the only time I can recall flying during my time there was for an ACC Championship game in Tampa, and that was because classes were still in session and there wasn't time to bus everyone down and back.

Awesome thoughts - thanks for sharing. I believe the ones posted to his site are the more complicated ones but I don't know for sure.

But since you kicked that soapbox my way I'll offer a little rant. Early in the BCS days, there was no limitation on what information the computers could use. Because they made the ratings more accurate, of course they took into account score difference because winning by 20 does mean something different than winning by 1. But then they noticed the computers disagreeing with polls, and -shocker here - took that to mean there was something wrong with the computers and not the polls! The point of the computers was to provide an element of the formula not subject to human bias...when that was shown to be working, they immediately decided that something must change.

So the system was changed to where computers could not take score difference into account, and only counted towards 1/3 of the BCS formula. Basically they tried to make the computers agree with the humans, which defeats the entire purpose of including computers.

In any event, as multiple people have done, the computer systems have all been compared for accuracy in predicting results. And surprise, the ones that include score difference are far more accurate than those that don't. One argument that was made with the change is that including the score difference encourages teams to run up the score. That is absurd for a few reasons:

1. The humans do that very thing, frequently citing the score difference between two teams as evidence of why their rankings are accurate.
2. Given the complexity of some of the rating systems, applying diminishing returns is a very simple task. You simply make higher and higher score differentials worst progressively less until scoring more essentially has no impact.
3. Before computers mattered, pollsters were using this information and very regularly teams with a large lead killed clock and/or played second string players, giving evidence that even in a system where this matters and not just winning and losing teams don't run up the score more than they feel necessary to ensure a comfortable win.

Well, thanks for the soap box...would you like it back now?

Wasn't trying to complain, merely trying make the point that most Bowls outside of the BCS Bowls aren't financially beneficial to band members. Also, the 2011 Sugar Bowl was my freshman year, so I was on a bus from NOVA (I'm from Maryland) to New Orleans. Literally had time to watch the extended versions of the Lord of the Rings trilogy on my laptop with time to spare to socialize on the way there.

It's more of a participate award. Everyone got one. I heard that's how London kept his job. He brought home a trophy.

Poor LOLUVA, they don't see many football trophies so they didn't know better.

Bowl games don't care about butts in seats. It's about TV revenue and forcing schools to pay for tickets whether they sell them or not doesn't matter. Games in El Paso and Detroit and Shreveport and Birmingham and Mobile are not cheap,to get to either. In fact when Tech played in El Paso tickets from Richmond and DC were cheaper to the Bahamas than to El Paso.

I was in Orlando at a bar at a Disney Resort on a lake, looking at the water and thinking life is pretty good right now and it can't get much better than this. As soon as I had that thought, I looked up at the television above the bar just in time to see Exum pick off Winston's pass in the Vikings/Bucs preseason game.

I was wrong. Exum proved that life could get better by seeing one of my favorite Hokies pick off one of my most disliked QBs. It was a great day, which brings me the sads now as I type this from my cubicle.

I hope Exum does well and has a long and successful NFL career. He deserves it.

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