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These are interesting points, but I think there is one prevailing issue that hasn't been addressed. Throughout most of the recruiting process, these football players are children. Numerous court cases have concluded that the government has a vested interest in shielding children from inappropriate materials and communication, which trumps any First Amendment right the other party has to "say what they want." Now, that's the government. Let's switch back to the NCAA. Consider Nevin Shapiro and the things he provided to those recruits - drugs, alcohol, strippers. Was it his right to say whatever he wanted or interact however he wanted with these children? I would say any reasonable court would answer, "no." His "rights" (perceived or real) do not trump the safety of children, because he put those kids in terrible situations, using his influence and money to sway their decisions.
The NCAA has a vested interest in protecting these kids. They are applying what they believe to be a reasonable restriction on the interactions of strangers with children. In this age of social media and cyber-bullying, where kids are routinely tormented by people online, I would think it intuitive that the NCAA would try to limit the impact of people who are trying to influence children who are being deified on TV by the likes of ESPN, Rivals, etc, who profit mightily off of talking and prognosticating about them (whole different issue there).
Of course, the NCAA did not write these rules with Twitter in mind, but I think that is why they are sticking to them so ardently. Probably the rules need to be rewritten, or at the very least, their interpretation reconsidered. With online communication, it's an unstoppable tide and no governing body, not the NCAA, not the school, can fully shield these kids from the public in any meaningful way, or at least in accordance with the original intent of the bylaw.
4 series, with 1 first down if I remember correctly. So maybe about 15 snaps. His line really did an awful job. 2 or 3 of the sacks had nothing to do with Logan. He could have stepped up and checked the ball down a little better, but he was still getting pressure when he went to his second read.
On one play he got chased down from behind on a bootleg, but the left guard barely got a hand on the guy speed rushing off the edge. He also had what I thought was a nice throw to his receiver on an out route, but the guy slipped so it looked way off.
Most of the scouting was done during the week, and the game stats won't do much to change his stock.
The first real NFL hit (see Kam Chancellor's hit on Vernon Davis) he took would be his last. He'd quit. Lebron is used to being the most athletically gifted person on the court but when the going gets tough he checks out. He would like the fact that the helmet would hide his receding hairline better than a headband.
The video contest you are referring to was run solely by the Virginia Tech Athletic Department. They were responsible for picking the winner of that contest.
As for picking the winner of the shirt design contest - I will take every name out of the submissions. I will just be looking at the designs, so I have no sense of who designed it. After the winning design is picked, I will then go look up who drew it and announce them.
As talented as he is he still wouldn't see the field at FSU on offense for 2 years at least. Hopefully he recognizes that.
Don't see them winning on the road, the only teams they should have a chance against are Maryland and Miami at home.
First off, we're probably not gonna win another game this year (BC might be our only realistic chance) which would give us a final record of 8-23. I know it's tough to compare last year to this year with different schedules and everything, but was Erick Green really worth 5 games by himself?
That second one - is that a grin or gritting teeth? Hard to decipher ....
5 sacks? How many snaps did he play?
Wasn't able to watch the game but a 20 point loss to a rival hurts. Did the team finally give up or are we just that inept?
Sadly as a backup for Eli might have been a good spot for LT.
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I've been waiting to read this, and I finally got a chance.
Thanks for your write-ups.
They are well done and insightful, and through no fault of your own, a lonely job.
This is what I feel like I am watching:
yea he said he was gonna take an fsu visit then a vt visit and then decide on signing day to either stick with vt or de-commit and go the fsu route
The founder said that's why he did it somewhere. I can't find it right now, but I definitely remember it in an interview. It's not really a surprise either, I mean, they're swinging for the fences. They're sending a message. "We can be like Nike."
That being said, I wouldn't be opposed to us moving our contract to UA. They do some interesting and creative things.
What you are talking about is Coaches and athletes violating NCAA bylaws, which as stated previously I agree is different.
The topic at hand is Fans Tweeting Recruits. This is specifically what the Harvard Journal is referring to in the subsequent findings. Every example you use is a penalty against some action by an individual that is already voluntarily signed to agree with NCAA rules. Please read more carefully as the topic at hand is Fans Tweeting Recruits.
The ban on tweeting is ONLY enforceable on those that likewise voluntarily consented to NCAA bylaws. Their umbrella does not, can not, include everyone in the populace. That is the definition of talking crap.
replies to your questions:
1) Coaches are employees. School officials are employees. Athletes are private students. All of them have a right to not have every moment of their life dictated by NCAA bylaws. This has been covered in corporate law in many cases.
2) Houston used a banned substance. Muhammad received impermissible benefits from a booster. neither is about tweeting recruits. Everything I spoke about is. Please read more carefully.
The Harvard Journal is an opinion based upon a law student that must have it read and passed by the editors and professors that oversee it, people far more knowledgeable than you and they did in fact use case precedent with Brentwood II. It is also used be Law office around the country for research, something you clearly don't know. The judges finding in that case was written clearly to show that only those that volunteer for these bylaws are subject to them. That is an actual legal finding. What you are reading is only that they penalized the school for the coaches actions, the volunteer, and not the subsequent findings about broad restriction on the greater public. That's why you're wrong.
if you want to form an argument then find something, anything, to support what you say. Right now you have nothing. And you are only talking about NCAA vs those that sign something with them. Not a fans tweet to a recruit which is what this thread is about.
Writing in all caps doesn't make it true. Sadly it also didn't make you understand what you're talking about either.
I remember reading 2 years ago that unless someone plays particularly well or poorly that the game actually doesn't matter so much for scouts. Practice is where it counts. They go to the practices to see how the player performs individually to see if they might fit their team's need, and how the player does with instructions that are given by coaches.
This.
Thanks Hokiechip. I do have a question though given your insider knowledge. How does HC pick who runs the organization? And how can that management be forced to make a change?
Do those that are HC members get to vote in or vote out management? I give to HC through my friends and honestly now after seeing how poorly it's run want to see my money being managed far more effectively. I'm not going to stop giving but I still want change.
I would imagine one problem with recent grads is related to where they end up. The Hokie Club is organized geographically. If the Hokie Reps were informed what graduates ended up in their 'region' you might see an effort to reach out to them.
Out of curiosity - when you stopped giving did the HC contact you to find out why?
Ouch... that 3-18 from 3 range is even worse that I thought, especially considering that at one point we were 2-5...
Its like Frank negotiated the damn thing. Seriously? WTF? Who was running the AD?
VT has a crap deal with Nike. Nike by not trying to redo the deal just shows us how much they value our business. We don't sell as much merchandise as ND, but we're probably closer to ND than Maryland.
All this speculation about UA and Maryland is nonsense. UA is not going to bend over to Maryland and screw up their core business because the founder went there. What do you people smoke thinking that kinda stuff? NSA probably couldn't find a link between B10 and Maryland move. UA wants to stay far away from favoring conferences and teams. This Md move is highly controversial and were it to work without an exit fee, would change the ACC and college football dramatically in a couple days.
They just couldn't hit shots, especially in the first half. They were down by 17 after the first half and the only reason it was closer in the second half was because of how much the UVA scrubs played down the final minutes. Still was no real rhythm on offense or real attempt to run set plays, just kids taking bad shots.