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the player with the ball jumps at the same moment the defensive player sets his feet to establish position. Typically it's called a charge, but in my opinion it should be a blocking foul. The offensive player cannot stop or change direction once they've leapt into the air, and encouraging defenders by giving them the call leads to more frequent injuries.

Next year we might not win a game, and no I'm not joking, we literally might go winless. And I agree that it is in no way JJ's fault, but he's going to be fired after next year. There's no conceivable way to keep him and it's unfortunate because he might actually be able to be a good coach. But we'll probably never find out.

Deron's shouldn't have been a charge, they didn't even make contact. Well, I guess one thing made contact....

We sure a varsity Ice Hockey program wouldn't be better than a basketball program? Frankly, losing to the hated cavs THREE-TIMES-IN-A-ROW at home is unacceptable.

You see dunks like this all the time, though, that go uncalled. Remember Deron Washington teabagging Paulus? That could have been a charge (could have been sexual assault as well).

Definitely. When Barksdale was benched, that sparked a fire under him. Maybe it would do the same for Robert Brown.

Just think of what LT3 can do with some improved coaching! Can't believe how many say he should go back to TE; he WAS our offense for the season. I've said it before, and will say it again: a 4,000-yard season is definitely possible with him. Look at what he did with seemingly everything else going wrong this season; almost 50% passes imcomplete but he still threw for just shy of 3,000-yards (along with the almost unavoidable 524-yards of rushing)!

Edit: Logan Thomas is a hydrogen bomb that just needs to be tamed! Having him return--the first RS Sr QB since '98--is huge for the program. I think these new coaches might be just what the doctor ordered.

That's as close a call as I can remember watching when it is slowed down. And that's the luxury we have, to see in slow motion and replayed several times. That's one where if you were on defense, you would definitely expect to get the call. I think its close, but I think Kevin is on to something: the defender had his feet set, but he put his arms out and he jumped up slightly to initiate contact. Think I would call a block in live action, but it looks much closer to a charge on a replay.

It may take another recruiting cycle to find another 5. It is going to be another year of Raines and JVZ at center next year. The two big guys coming in are both 6'9". Thompson I believe was in attendance as well last night.

Once the first half ended with the foul margin greatly in our favor, this is exactly how I saw the second half playing out. It was a B rate group out there, but you have to still play your game.

Also, from the gif it looks as if Will Johnston cutting to the basket causes the guard to be there to take the charge/block

Which is ironic considering JJ was a 3-time Defensive Conference POY at Ferrum. You'd think he would care more about defense. As for Greenberg, I think our teams had slightly inflated defensive numbers because our offense was to stand around for 25 seconds and then have someone go one-on-one for the last 10.

Brown, Eddie, Barksdale, and Raines should not be starting on an ACC team. It's that simple.

You can't swallow the whistle on that play, there's just too much contact. I'm sure most coaches would rather have a call go against them if that means the refs are keeping the game under control (which the refs last night were pretty bad at, but not because of this charge call).

What's even stranger to see is the night and day difference between Greenberg and JJ's styles. Greenberg was a hard nosed defensive style coach. Control the clock but focus more on keeping the other team from scoring and putting the ball only in your star's hands to score points. JJ coaches practically zero defense and focuses on offense and shooting when you feel like you have a shot, whether it's the right move or not.

I don't think the talent is anywhere near that bad. Eddie, Rankin and Brown could have went to 8 or more other ACC schools. Maybe Barksdale and Raines are marginal talents, but our problem isn't on the inside.

I think the depth problem is overblown, but what it does do is it REQUIRES you to play the guys you got. There is not competition in practice to make Eddie defend better or to push Brown to be more efficient offensively. I don't think the 7 players we have are untalented, I just think we need 5 more like them so that we can get the best out of what we have.

but he had a self-destructive tendency. He had run his course, unfortunately, which left Weaver with this hire.

I'm not sure JJ is terrible, but he certainly is not getting the best out of these guys. It pains me to see such poor defensive fundamentals.

Good points guys - appreciate the insight. Well maybe he just didn't focus his recruiting efforts in the right place then. The lack of big men over the years is just bewildering to me.

When we start to win the big games on the big stages, those 5* will come. Hopefully the Loeffler/Grimes era will be the change that we've needed to get us down that road.

I think DFS and Harrell would be evidence that Greenberg was a good recruiter. Now could he utilize players properly? Well that's a different question entirely.

I agree that Greenberg didn't recruit many big men, but he still was a very good recruiter. If Finney-Smith hadn't transfered and Harrell hadn't decommitted (he's starting at Louisville right now) we would have a pretty good team actually. But with losses like that it's hard to survive in the ACC. Especially when your AD decides a month after the season to do something.

I think JJ is a great guy, I've talked to him a couple times and he seems like a genuinely good person, but he was never ready for this. He was thrown to the fire, and looking ahead to next season, without Green this team is going to be the worst in the ACC. I don't know if he keeps his job, and then we're right back to where we were in April, losing recruits and looking for a coach. Weaver really screwed us on this one.

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