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That's a pretty solid source

Looks like I'm done rooting for DW /sadface

Cowboys fan here, and not only do I have to disown RGIII, but now I have to disown DMFW, too? This is too much to bear in one night.

VT '07, BU '10

we know he will be an upgrade from Nosal. The coaches were starting to play Wang over Nosal and Brooks in key spots anyway. I think he will be fine, but a 320lb stud DT could cause problems.

So happy my G-Men picked up DW4! He's a beast, just needs to make good decisions.

He's a Giant! 1st roun
der

fwiw -- it's been confirmed second hand that caleb kinlaw does not have an offer yet (from VT) .. rivals info is incorrect

and also, we all that vincent mihota committed at the spring game:

http://247sports.com/Player/Vincent-Mihota-20335?pi=32595

what do you think of brown french? he looks sick too and he's already being compared to suh .. imagine what these guys will do with coaching AND some more weight

the difference between the sec and everyone else = defensive lineman

if we could land brown and hand, with jones and ekanem << dear lord

First things first: I'm willing to bet that Weaver tried to let Seth know before he issued the press conference, and Seth dismissed him and said he was too busy to come in til later (something that happened a lot between the two, he was notorious for being dismissive and rude to Weaver. You don't treat your boss like that). At that point: Weaver pulled rank and did what he did. People are whining about how it was handled, and at face value, it wasn't good. But I'm sure there's more to it. That being said: I'll reserve judgement on the whole thing. He's gone. We're moving on. End of story.

Second thing. I can't tell you how much it bothers me that ESPN thinks we should be happy to be "relevant" because we're a football school, while on the other side of their mouth they are singing the praises of UNC football and how they might be the next national championship dark horse. Every powerhouse starts somewhere, and isn't that what sports is supposed to be about? A team that finds the right coach, the right fit, and the right formula to become great? What truly bothers me is that our students and fans listen to this vitriolic rhetoric and echo their sentiments. Have some faith. VT is a big school in a great conference, and we have some dough. Not quite SEC dough, but we're doing alright. All we need is a young coach looking to make a name for himself, who's driven by that ambition. Not a big name that's made it and is just looking to fluff his ego at a new school. I'm on the "get that young guy" bandwagon...because then they are as desperate for success as our team is. They do it together. THAT'S what Shaka is all about...he was an underdog WITH his team. Also...we are NOT getting Shaka...but there are plenty of other fantastic young coaches out there.

Anyways...have some faith in what is possible for VT athletics....we could very well have a fantastic basketball team. Other sports have done it in our athletic dept. Why not bball?

The national media does not like VT. They used to when we were on the rise in football, but we became a stale story and our lack of "big game" wins puts us as a second tier story/program. So we are fun to hate on. They don't see potential ahead for VT anymore, we are the "they don't belong here" team every year now . Perhaps its deserved, perhaps not. But its fine by me, because I see it differently and think we have a lot of upside and I hope we get to watch them squirm and/or jump on a bandwagon someday soon. But overall, we've lost the favor of the national media in football and, since that is the lead program, that trickles down to others. Seth was the one guy they liked because he gave them color and sound bites and was great in front of a camera.

I don't like the way Weaver handled the firing either. But I agree, the media gives VT very little positive press anymore but seems to love to jump on something negative. VT fans need to be tough though, shrug that off, rally round each other, put a chip on our shoulders, and enjoy the us vs the world role.

As I noted in my comments on Twitter and here, it blows my mind on how people have focused on everything except the lack of improvement players made on the court. If it is one or two guys who were excellent contributors as freshmen but never improved and were essentially the same players their senior year, then you can attribute that to those players. Instead, that MO can be attributed to every significant player he recruited, and that points directly to Seth's ability to teach and coach once the players signed their LOI. He coached the same way that John Calipari coached at Memphis, which is get the best athletes, and out-athlete everybody. That only works when not only do you have the best athletes, but your athletes are MUCH better than your opponent, and in the ACC, unless they start their own mini-UNLV in Blacksburg.

Not making the NCAA tournament, when 68 teams make the dance, to me is like the football team not making it to a bowl game (perhaps a better example would be making the Eagle Bank Millitary Bowl after a 6-6 season, 4-6 in conference.) If Coach Beamer had 8 years of either not making a bowl, or making 2nd tier bowls that didn't matter, we would be screaming for his head. In today's college athletics, having a decent year and making a bowl or making the tournament to get knocked out in the first round or just missing, just doesn't cut the mustard. Seth's performance in the ACC is the definition of mediocre, and wouldn't be accepted at any other ACC school. When you add the problems with the administration, players, coaches, and local media, the ends didn't justify the means.

Now, how do you pick a replacement? I am not going to claim to know who is available and can do what needs to be done. But whoever it is, the following needs to happen:

1) The fan base needs to support the team, even though they will be terrible for 2 years. The program is decimated. The new coach must cultivate support, but support for an approach where they will take second tier recruits, keep them in the program for four years and make them better, and get to the level of a VCU within two years. That takes time.

2) The coach must institute an offensive system that relies on ball movement, systematic cutting, and tough defense and rebounding. You can't out-talent, so out execute.

3) Schedule VCU, U of R, ODU, Mason, etc, and beat them. Own the Commonwealth.

4) Recruits will come with NCAA tournament success.