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You have to give credit to Mike London. He's doing everything he can to appeal to, and land, kids from the 757 whether they're division I worthy (package deals) or not. All the local media cares to, or is smart enough to, cite are the total kids from the area going to UVa.

It took a lot more than Jim Weaver to get Virginia Tech into the ACC (Mark Warner was by far the most influential person on that it appears). I'm sure he played a part, but I find it hard to believe that any AD worth a lick wouldn't have been trying the same thing.

As for being in the black, what does that even mean to most of us? While I fully agree that athletics budgets have gotten entirely out of control, college athletics are a basically marketing expense for the school these days. What's the difference between Virginia Tech and a school operating in the red in athletics? Do our academics suffer less financial burden as a result? Honestly I don't know the answers to these questions.

Finally, the improvements across our sports programs arguably has as much to do with the stability of ACC membership as anything. Women's basketball went from respectable to beyond horrible under Weaver. Every other sport that I can think of had to play in a far inferior conference. Despite being in one of the top conferences in many non-rev sports now, we've failed to even seemingly conduct a nationwide coaching search for recent openings. We've promoted assistants in women's lax, women's basketball, and both soccer programs. I'm not saying these people were wrong or won't succeed at the job, but there's an established pattern of Weaver going with the cheap, familiar route rather than necessarily looking for the best coach. So maybe he hasn't "steered us wrong yet," but I'm not sold that he's steered us as well as he could have in more than a few situations.

Not surprised by the decision of either of these guys. Harrell is a great talent and is going to make another coach very happy, but I don't think that the situation Weaver put the program and those kids in is horrible. Yes, it's not ideal as Harrell is a fantastic player that provided some needed depth next year, but if the decision to fire Greenberg was made a week ago, I'm not sure why we waited so long to publicize it (maybe spring football had something to do with that, just maybe...). It sucks for Harrell, but I think he will find himself in another successful program before too long. And the only way I see us keeping him, which is a significant long shot at this point, is by hiring a coach within the next few days and having him make a "you're THE guy" pitch. But I doubt that would convince Trez to stay committed here anyway.

I'm totally ok with mouth kisses, You Guys.

Keeping Greenberg around for one more year to keep Harrell would have been a bad idea and he likely would have left anyway when Greenberg wasn't retained next year. We will see how things shake out but based on all the information coming to light it was time to make a change.

we really need Motley to pan out at QB so he can be 2nd string. I would much rather have Bucky and Parker redshirt/3rd string emergency QB. If LT3 stays for 2013, then Bucky and Parker definitely will redshirt and all Hokies will rejoice.

I want to kiss you on the mouth for this.

Mark Byington for head coach!

This is as honest as of a take on the situation that I've read, and that's not even considering the insider perspective.

but I can't say I particularly thought he was a good fit for a coach at Virginia Tech.

Maybe this is because I heard murmurs within the athletic dept from other coaches and staff members about his abrasive nature, or his lack of attempts to be a apart of the AD community (and it IS a community..Weaver's family aspect was spot on). Maybe it's because my room mate was head manager of the ball team and bashed him constantly. I'm biased in that regard. Whatever.

My problem was where the team was headed. Sure, he started off fantastically. And my freshman year was also his 2nd year there. And I swear, if one person responds (THEN YOU DONT KNOW HOW BAD IT WAS YOU'RE TOO YOUNG TO UNDERSTAND!Q!!!11111) then I will fight you. I can read a W-L column and understand bad attendance numbers as bad as the rest. This is why the "we're better than we used to be!" argument is crap.

Being just fine with being "better than we used to be" is not becoming of an Athletic Department that wants victories and championships. Joining the ACC, we focused on improving Olympic sports and basketball. Basketball has improved from 2003, sure....but it's 2012 now. 9 years isn't necessarily a promising trajectory when hoping to become at the top of a recently down ACC.

People blame injuries, and I'll admit that's some bad luck, but what would have happened if so many players and coaches didn't leave? The programs biggest problem was consistency. We weren't consistent in our performance week to week. Well, consistency on the field of play starts with consistency in the front office, and the locker room. Any coach and athlete will tell you that a healthy locker room is a healthy team.

I'm so thankful for some of the things I witnessed there. Beating Duke and UNC, being on the cusp of the dance is even a little fun sometimes. The sense of victimization, however, isn't. After so many years in an AD that gave him so many resources, it should never had been in the committees hands. Had be continued his upwards trajectory, I'd be in his corner all the way. He didn't, Weaver is a business man, and clearly the relationship was strained. Seth ultimately earned this, as all employees that don't quite meet expectations.

As far as how it was handled? I agree, Seth could have been notified before Weaver announced the press conference. But I'm of the believe that we have NO IDEA how things work in there. We can sit here and speculate how it was handled, and what let to the decision...but we simply don't know. Maybe a big name coach came into town and Weaver had to jump on the opportunity to get this news out ASAP...maybe other circumstances were at work. I think Seth should have known as soon as the decision was finalized, but feel incredibly sad for him???? No.

The guy walks with a buyout of 300,000 a year, and the promise to match any salary he may receive as another job. National media loves him, and I'm sure he'll land on his feet. I won't be shedding any tears, that's for certain.

After all of this, I think we'll land on our feet too. We get a whole new staff, and if there's anything basketball has taught us, it's that a young nobody coach can do amazing things. I get kind of pissed when I hear everyone and their pessimism about how we can't find anyone better than Seth. We can't?? Then let's just cut the whole damn program. It's an ACC school with a rabid fan base, and athletes here are treated VERY VERY well. It may not be the name you want, but hey, we found Greenberg 9 years ago right? Maybe this time we make some tweaks, find one than can continually improve, and we may be just fine.

Well, we know someone will be moving. It will be tough to have 4 guys competing for the job when Logan leaves

Leal
Hodges
Parker
Motley (who I still think might be the suprise guy who wins the job at some point)

I'd be surprised if we landed Jennings .. but so far, this cycle has turned some heads .. so never say never. I would be very impressed if we were able to land Jennings and Hodges, and move Parker to WR