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I'm just going off memory here, but I seem to remember that it was assumed Tyrod would play at some point in the 2007 season and Frank was just waiting for when the team needed a spark. 2008 is when there was an actual plan to redshirt Tyrod and then ECU happened.

I think that depends on what the other QBs on the roster show from here on out during practice. Doing this in-game against OSU involved too many variables. Making the evaluation over a period of days in controlled settings is far more optimal. If we're still looking tentative against Furman, there's not enough bourbon in the world for me to get through this season.

Brewer can't get a 6th year so it's null issue.

You marched DCI? Word! What corps? I work for YEA / The Cadets!

Agree with you here. I broke my collar bone playing football and it was basically like someone just broke it in half. That's what I feel happened to Brewer just the way he got up and was holding it. I didn't play again that year, however I didn't have physical therapy to work on it and I was 15 so we'll see. But it won't surprise me if we don't see him the rest of the year.

Sorry, guys. Would have handled this, but I shut my laptop when the clock struck 00:00. Had to get up for work at 5 AM and honestly just didn't want to deal with the postgame fallout. Looks like the community handled the situation with minimal BS.

Now I think you're talking about a timing issue rather than a straight recruiting issue. We have verbals from three very good WRs, freshman DEs who are being brought along, QBs in the pipeline, improving depth along the OL. Your point is valid, but all the signs point to the issues being addressed by the new staff rather than ignored.

Your last sentence is 100% dead-on. As awesome as a win might have been last night, going all-in on OSU is a bad gamble. We have to think about competing in our own conference for the rest of the season. If Motley went down because we bet the house last night, we were really doomed. It's dicey enough as it is right now.

But if Lawson is the QB for our future, why have Brewer apply for a 6th year to be a backup. I mean if that's what he wanted to do by all means. But I don't see him applying for a 6th year if the coaches say "we're playing lawson and he's the QB for the foreseeable future."

Granted, but what we saw with Motley wasn't an appreciable dropoff, if was a complete grinding halt.

Lefty already said they basically played Motley on a leash because they were worried about him rolling an ankle. That won't cut it going forward. You can't magically turn Brendan Motley into a pocket passer. If you aren't going to let him run, you kill whatever chance of success you have with him.

Hopefully Lefty realizes this and was simply in a mindframe of "get us out of this game with only one injured QB."

I truly wanted only one thing last night: to see an improved offense.

A win would have been nice. But Lefty showed us all that with the right tools, he can make that thing go.

Everyone who is down on Mot for now should just accept that the backup qb for 95 percent of the teams in any league is going to have a long night against the top team.

Give him a week of number one reps, and let's evaluate his ability after the next few games.

Losing Brewer stings. But I am still pumped for the future of this program.

It's all Stiney's fault! No not at all, but he needs to get his sorry ass down on the sideline. From the little I can see during the telecast the offense just seems to wander around like a herd of sheep when not in play. From what I saw Motley had that, "oh shit, it's me" lost moment when Brewer got hurt and there was no coach to take him and lead him into the game with reassuring encouragement. Disagree but I really think an organizer is needed during games to keep the O focused. Headphones don't get it.

While that's true, others won't see the massive drop in production we did. When Brewer went out, the passing game went with him. We went one dimensional, and the second OSU realized our passing game was shot they pinned their ears back and we were done.

But I wasn't just talking about QB. If we have Ford or Phillips go down, we're not looking good at WR. If we lose anyone on OL, as we saw last year, things get rough. If we lose either of our DEs, Lord help us. Right now we are a talented team but we're not deep. If we want to legitimately take that next step and get back to where we were we can't be so thin at so many spots.

Agree with pretty much everyone here. The biggest heart-ache about this loss is that of Brewer. We'll never know what could've been with him in the game. You could see the difference on both sides of the ball once he went out. Oh well. Nothing we can do. We are now even with the defending national champs. Could be worse.

As for Motely, I don't know. I guess we'll see next week where he's at. He was obviously number 2 for a reason and I'm not sure he has the passing prowess that Brewer does. I hope he proves me wrong. I for one have been a supporter or red-shirting Lawson, however now I don't know. If he doesn't have a grip on the offense then no, you still keep him out. No reason to burn it to watch him stumble through a season just to get "experience". But if he's on par with Motely then I think that takes some serious consideration. I doubt we see Brewer again this year. At best it's three weeks and he's back but I don't know how that's possible. He's tough though so we'll see. At worst, 8 weeks. That puts us at week 9. If he's ready by then I don't think you screw whatever we have going and bring him in for a couple games.....unless we are a dumpster fire at that point.

So frustrating to loose him. Best of luck in his recovery.

EDIT: Oh and Alex, the final was 42-24 not 42-17. Nice quick write up though.

Really sorry about Brewer. The kid was playing fantastically and is tough as nails. I wish him a speedy recovery and good luck to the Hokies - who have some of the classiest fans in sports - the rest of the way.

Would Scott Loeffler please pass along his insights to the Buckeyes' defensive coaching staff? He said, "It would've been nice to see what would've happened with Brewer in that second half, I thought we had a ridiculous game plan for the second half to take advantage of what they did. We found a way in the second quarter and I think we had some really cool stuff to exploit them . . ."? Not to make excuses, but VT's style of offense (old school, but with lots of creative misdirection plays, using talented TEs/FBs) - and how well they execute it with Brewer fully healthy - seems to give the Ohio State D fits.

Not so sure about the neck and neck comment and we belong. Took just about every break for us to go into half leading. The TD they called back against oSU and then a missed FG (yes we missed one too). The muffed punt after they forced a 3 and out that we converted to a TD. Their WRs dropping balls (the first bad drop still resulted in a TD however that drive).

Burn the shirt, and go all in on Lawson. If he's as good as advertised, he needs to play and start against Furman. We cannot afford to waste a year of the talent we have at WR and TE when we have the potential we have. Burn it and work your balls off on the recruiting trail to ensure we are legitimately able to go next man up in situations during games like that going forward.

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