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A person who limits their responses to practical, traditional uses feel there's no need to reinvent the wheel, or that there are well established 'best' uses that need not be questioned.

If the FWAA is on par with the Baseball writers voting then I cant wait for the catastrophe that comes out of this. We definitely need more terrible voting, polling, and made up news stories. Bring it on.

I hadn't posted the link back to my original post when you replied, but I had put in a caveat that undefeated teams had to also be ranked in the top ten to make it into the playoffs. That would keep out an independent team that scheduled a bunch of cupcake teams. In general though I don't think it would be that common of an occurrence that an undefeated team wouldn't be deserving of a spot in the playoffs. Since 2000 there have been 25 teams that finished the regular season undefeated and ranked inside the top 10. 16 of them were ranked either #1 or #2 in the BCS poll and played for the MNC. The other 9 teams were:

2004 Auburn (#3) (3rd highest rated champ)
2006 Boise State (#8) (5th highest rated champ)
2007 Hawaii (#10) (7th highest rated champ)
2008 Utah (#6) (4th highest rated champ)
2008 Boise State (#9) (6th highest rated champ)
2009 Cincinnati (#3) (3rd highest rated champ)
2009 TCU (#4) (4th highest rated champ)
2009 Boise State (#6) (5th highest rated champ)
2010 TCU (#3) (3rdh highest rated champ)

I noted there final BCS rankings and how they ranked compared to other conference champions. As you can see most of the time if a team finishes undefeated they are also one of the 5 highest rated conference champions/Notre Dame. Even in 2009 when 5 teams finished undefeated, they were the 5 highest rated conference champions. The only two times that a team finished undefeated and wasn't one of the 5 highest rated conference champions were 2007 Hawaii and 2008 Boise State. Its certainly not a perfect system, and I may have made some mistakes in my list, but generally if a team finishes undefeated they're one of the 10 best teams in the country and would deserve a spot in an 8 team playoff.

Also, I believe Shayne Graham is still kicking somewhere.

Which leads me to wonder... we've had some pretty decent kickers/punters come through Blacksburg since I first enrolled... guys like Brandon Pace, Vinnie Burns, Nic Schmitt, and Brent Bowden. I'm surprised they're not playing.

I hope they have a running bet on whose son will start for the Hokies first!

Let's keep in mind, looking at his less-than-outstanding jumping numbers too, that the guy is a little over a year removed from annihilating his knee. The fact that he's even at the combine putting up competitive numbers is quite an accomplishment.

I think 16 is where it ends up honestly. I do think it may be a little big but that will be all 12 conference champs and 4 at large teams. Gives the possibility for a Cinderella that the bball tourney has

I tend to lean towards taking the 5 highest rated conference champions from any conference and eliminating the "power conference" concept. I posted something more in depth a while ago and I'll see if I can go back and find it, but you would pretty much take the top 5 rated conference champions, if the MWC champion is one of the 5 highest rated conference champions, then they get one of the 5 auto bids. I think I had it set up so that any other undefeated teams would also get auto bids, and then I had a procedure for determining which additional schools get into a pool for at large selection by a committee.

I'll see if I can find my original post

Edit:
I found my post here:
http://www.thekeyplay.com/content/2013/december/9/my-case-16-team-playof...

I ended up accidentally bumping that topic to the top when I was getting the direct link to the post.

Oh are we doing this again? Well shoot, it's the offseason, so what the heck?

I'd have a pretty big issue with giving preferential treatment to undefeated teams, since that would discourage teams from scheduling tough (and entertaining) non-conference opponents and we'd be treated to more outstanding games like Alabama vs. Chattanooga. No thanks.

I personally LOVE the 4-game playoff, with the large bowl pool backing it up. I think it's a great way to preserve (and enhance) the regular season. I absolutely love that every single week is a "playoff" in that it matters. I feel like if it went to a 16-team thing, the regular season would be all about just making it into the top 16, and a loss or two along the way wouldn't be all that damaging. That'd significantly take away from the regular season experience for me as a fan. I think right now they've gotten it right. No more than 4-5 teams every year legitimately can make a claim that they're national-champion material. They've got the talent, coaching and on-field production to justify it. I want to see THOSE teams play without watering it down to include a few more teams that could any-given-Saturday one of the big boys.

I realize that this is an older topic, but I thought I would go ahead and add my idea. I would suggest an 8 team playoff using the following selection rules:

  1. Five highest rated conference champions receive auto bids (For simplicity's sake, I chose to use BCS rankings, but other ranking systems can be substituted)
  2. If any other conference champions or top ten ranked independents are undefeated they receive an auto bid
  3. In the event that more than eight conference champions and top ten ranked independents finish the season undefeated, the highest ranked teams shall receive the auto bids
  4. After auto bids have been awarded the remaining spots shall be filled from a pool of eligible teams by a selection committee.
  5. The pool of eligible teams shall consist of top ten teams that haven't yet received an auto bid and conference champions with one or fewer losses.
  6. The selection committee may not place more than two teams from the same conference into the playoff when other eligible teams are available.
  7. If the pool of eligible teams doesnt fill all eight playoff berths as defined above, the pool of eligible teams shall expand to include two loss conference champions and the top fifteen teams. The committee shall also have the option to include a third team from each conference.
  8. The pool of eligible teams shall continue expanding to include conference champions with an additional loss and five ranking spots until all playoff berths are filled.
  9. Seeding of playoff shall be determined by the committee. Considerations for seeding shall include conference championships, rankings, W-L Record, avoiding rematches and travel time for teams.

This system would yield the following results for the current season:

Auto Bids:

5 Highest Ranked Conference Champions
#1 Florida State ( 13-0)
#2 Auburn (12-1)
#4 Michigan State (12-1)
#5 Stanford (11-2)
#6 Baylor (11-1)

Other Undefeated Conference Champions and Independents
None

At Large Selection Pool:

Other One Loss Conference Champions
#15 UCF (11-1)

Other Top Ten Teams
SEC
#3 Alabama (11-1)
#8 Missouri (11-2)*
#9 South Carolina (10-2)

B1G
#7 Ohio State (12-1)*

PAC12
#10 Oregon (10-2)

*Indicates Loser of a Conference Championship game

If I were on the selection committee, My picks for the remaining 3 spots would be UCF (conference champion, only loss by 3 to USCe), Alabama (1 loss team, highly ranked) , and Ohio State. (1 loss team, Missouri not eligible because 2 SEC teams already selected)

I would set the initial round up with the following match ups adjusted for travel and to avoid rematches. First round match ups would be hosted by higher seeded teams, subsequent rounds to be played at neutral sites. Numbers indicate where I had them seeded initially.

#1 Florida State vs. #7 UCF
#4 Baylor vs. #5 Stanford
#3 Michigan State vs. #6 Alabama
#2 Auburn vs. #8 Ohio State

I would also have the system set up so that the winner of 1v7 doesn't necessarily play the winner of 4v5. For example: If the winners of the first round games were Florida State, Stanford, Alabama, and Auburn. I would have Alabama and Auburn avoiding a rematch so 2nd Round would be Florida State vs Alabama and Auburn vs Stanford.

... because you don't switch someone's position mid-season.

Also, looking at Exum's three starts:
... against Duke, Facyson was out and Kyle was hurt, so Exum and Kendall started at CB.
... against BC, Kyle was out and I think Facyson was hurt too.
... against Miami, Kyle started but left after two plays, so Exum, Kendall and Facyson rotated. (Then Exum got hurt again.)

When his shoulders were dinged up he had issues. Understandable issues, but I'm sure it shows up on tape.

These kids are tough as heck. All these guys at the combine have played with significant pain and injury. Hats off to them for manning up. Hope they get their NFL payday for all the harm and risk they were exposed to.

That's because he was arguably our best cover corner at the end of last year, not to mention the coaching staff didn't want to have to rely on two true freshmen unless they absolutely had to, regardless of how talented they are.

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