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Well I guess one good thing with LOLuva getting these "thoroughbred" recruits - they spend all their life hearing how great they are, it'll give them a good dose of humble pie.

#teampie.

This is a very distinct possibility, although I wouldn't put it past Lefty to put Durkin in for specific packages.

IMO If Leal wins the job, Motley will be the backup. Ford and Durkin will RS. They won't blow that just so either can play in garbage time

I don't think it's a stupid rule. I think the limit on contact with recruits and coaches is one of the more sensible ones. The ability of ANY coach (and as I've said in other posts, I would hate it if VT were doing this) to find a way to sidestep the limits, which are known to everyone involved here, is wrong because it flies in the face of the purpose of amateur athletics.

I'm not slandering anyone. I'm not alleging anything immoral is going on (this isn't about morals, it's about rules for fair play). I am only saying that if there is any potential for merit to what was reported above, by a journalist whose integrity depends on (at least in part) the veracity of this story, there needs to be an investigation. If everything comes back clean, then these guys are in a position of greater strength. And if it's not clean, they get busted and reforms come.

Like the Aaron Murray reference...we may have a few bumps and bruises to start with a freshman QB but it will payoff huge by sophomore year and beyond

When I was in school, I supported Noel because we were/are both Hokies.

But that doesn't mean that I was going to turn a blind eye to his screwups...

You may be expecting too much from the fan base as a whole. Supporting struggling QBs is not exactly our forte. Any mistake they make (even when it's not necessarily their fault), will be put under the microscope 10,000 ways. If it's a young guy, people will say, "that's why you should have the senior in there." If Leal is starting, it'll be, "that's why we should've given a young guy a shot. Why are we wasting a year with this guy?" If Durkin overthrows a guy, it'll be "that's why we need Ford, he has better touch." If Ford throws a pick, it'll be, "see? He's not ready for college. Put Durkin in there, at least he's got a stronger arm and can run."

Point is, the VT QB position this year is pretty much a no-win situation for whoever wins the job. A vocal part of the fanbase will ALWAYS be calling for the next guy all season long.

I'd love to see how 7 on 7 tourneys display these guys talents... reminder- this is glorified touch football. And the bigger issue to many is that many of these alleged 'coaches' are NOT positive influences. Case and point:

"To all the Hokie fans talking sh*t...I hear you loud and clear and I will make sure that u guys get everything you deserve good luck because you'll need it and to the fans that are good people and don't understand why your friends keep doing this I am sorry because I promise you the damage is done and there is nothing that you can say to me or my group to make things right you barked up the wrong Tree on this 1. I normally wouldn't care where any kid going to college but now at this point I will never recommend a kid to go to Tech y'all can send all ur hall of fame guys or your current or former NFL guys to come out and try to talk to us and I will tell them the same thing I'm telling you I think your football program is great but but y'all ain't shit ( this is not for all of you only the ones that have been investigating us and putting our information over the Internet ) I will let all my kids know how you feel about the coaches and a current players they play with so keep it up. I am trying to figure out why you so mad at Turtle anyway UVA got best quarterback in a state according to the VHSCA and the coaches got what they wanted the Allstate utility player it's a good thing you got the dad is going to take you to the next level lmao whatever chump."

-Carson Cutler (father of Corwin Cutler)

I think in the "best case scenario" this is a situation where Mr. Cutler worked to surround his kid with the best talent in VB so that his son would have more success in HS, get noticed more, and hyped more. Then the group of "coaches" felt snubbed by VT so they steered all these kids away from Blacksburg. UVA was pushed since that's where Cutler was going, and again Mr. Cutler wanted to surround his kid with some talent. The kids who didn't like UVA were still steered away from VT.

Newsome & Beamer don't pander to 3rd party handlers, Strike 1.
London & West called Snead more than once per day. Strike 2.
UVA recruited his Turtle Cutler, VT didn't. Strike 3.

So blame the NCAA for a stupid rule, don't call the advocates of young men dirty without evidence.

Are we forgetting that these are real men? With families? Careers? Is it really acceptable to go online and slander them and accuse them of immoral business practices?

I guess I just have qualms dragging people's names through the mud and potentially damaging their future abilities to provide for their families simply because they don't like my favorite football coach.

My only hope is that if Leal is selected as the dude, I hope the rest of Hokie nation and TKP will stand by and support him. I know Beamer is a huge proponent of experience.

Dual true freshmen at the QB position. Possibly a true freshman in the mix at RB...

The times are a changin'

Logan definitely had better weapons day 1. David Wilson, Jarrett Boykin, Danny Coale, etc.

I would not say no to seeing Ford as the starter with Durkin having a few packages of his own, a la Duke's Connette this year.

We did, but ESPN only cares about the top 150 recruits or so. The fact that UVA got 2 of the top recruits despite sucking horribly on the field is miraculous enough to earn them "signing day winner" status. It's been quite a while since their football team experienced any form of winning, so we'll give it to them for now.

I'm gonna say Andrew Ford will be our starting QB next season with some QB rotation in the scheme.

In Lefty We Trust!
Similar discussion on another offense thread. 2014 is gonna show some of his schemes combined with his chosen talent & a more disciplined O-Line. Bring It!

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