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Yeah but, normally 1/2 the game would have been good enough.

Lose to Duke all the way. 3 reasons:

  1. Motivation and a wake-up call: Don't want anyone getting comfy with thin margin of victories courtesy of a suffocating defense. Time to fix this shit. This is a victimless crime in the grand scheme of things, a loss that we knew would happen at some point AND that provides an additional sting that could unleash some growing pains.
  2. I hate Miami, don't really hate Duke.
  3. Beating Miami offers us redemption from the Duke loss, the reverse is most certainly not true. ACCCG and beating a highly ranked rival are SMART goals.

We're kidding ourselves if we think that this doesn't hurt. Obviously recruits know that losses are gonna happen, but a win just makes for such a more enjoyable experience. And I'm sure all the offensive recruits must just be dying to come play for Loeffler.

I would much rather lose to Duke...I know it sucks and we were all bitching and moaning last night (including myself), but if we beat Miami in two weeks this site will be back to talking about heading the Charlotte to play the Seminoles as we were before we channeled our inner LOLUVA and got on our knees for Duke.

Do you not realize that we moved the ball effectively but just didn't finish drives? The finishing part isn't really on the play caller but the players. Four turnovers doesn't help. Especially Logan's decision to try to be a hero on the play inside the 10 and threw a pick in the end zone.

Ill take a stab at this...I am going to say the level of talent on our Offense and a coherent offensive philosophy. This is not an indictment of the new offensive coaches just an indictment of the last ten years. Also not saying that we need 5 star guys but they can help.

This guy has been pretty good at projecting the BCS this year. We're ranked 22nd in his projected BCS. 2nd team unranked in the coaches poll, 26th in the Harris Poll, still top 15 in the computers and well outside the AP Poll (but that one doesn't matter at all). Looks like the coaches are giving Duke the credit they deserve.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/rankings/bcs

I guess I should clarify that I don't specifically mean screens, but all plays we run. We can run any play and it will look worse or result in less than when other teams do the same thing.

Here here to this:

It should be a surprise to no one that Malzahn returned to Auburn and has had immediate success. Not only is he a brilliant man, but his offense is geared to be a quick install, and his players were already there.

Malzahn should be considered the gold standard of offensive coordinators. Sure, Helfrich is a great OC but hasn't been as successful at Malzahn in as many places. Malzahn is an innovator on offense.

Malzahn : Offense :: Foster : Defense
If those two ever teamed up the world would implode.

We like to use Wr screens, personally I wanna see more rb screens to guys like coleman or mangus. I haven't seen any of those that I can recall

it's true, a spade has been called and it's hard to argue. More to the point that we are upset over the coaches exceeding our expectations and now we are upset that we were right as a fanbase in the first place.

I'm happy for Kendall but somebody might need to inform him that when the offense isn't doing squat, he needs to go Superman on that INT return and try for six.

I have a question for french, Mason, whoever can answer it, because it has been a point of frustration for me for a long time regarding the offense. I hope it's taken seriously because I don't want to add to a flame war over yesterday's game:

After watching VT yesterday, then tuning into, well, all the other games, it seems like we always have trouble executing even the most basic plays. Mizzou ran a screen pass yesterday and it appeared to be pretty well covered, but still went for something like 46 yards. Oregon runs screens and it blows defenses wide open. But when we do it, they never go anywhere.

I know we don't have a Henry Josie (who looks amazing, if you haven't seen him) or a DeAnthony Thomas, but why is it that it seems like other teams execute these plays for gains in yardage, and for years we haven't been able to do the same thing. Even running off-tackle seems like an exercise in futility.

Why does it seem like we are always failing to demonstrate what looks like an elementary level of offensive competence? I watch a LOT of college football and I can't say I've seen anyone else struggle this mightily, even against good defenses, even this late in the season (anyone playing against Alabama or FSU for the last two weeks excluded).

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