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This sounds like a good Doctor Who episode.
I think most of the upper south is lottery tickets that students use and them move to east or north. The game experience just isn't the same from up there.
If it comes down to VT-Miami for the coastal we certainly have a chance to go to Charlotte and lose to FSU by 40.
This is part of the reason I vote Miami. This isn't a year where I think we deserve the Coastal, and Miami has done very well this year. I always have respect for Miami going back to the Big East days, and while I don't like losing to them, I don't feel any great shame in losing to them, even in their down years.
We're calling out Loeffler here because how many 1st down plays did he call for a qb draw of some sort that went for no gain or less than a yard. There was some fake read option (Logan wasn't doing any reading obviously).
Did Spurrier vote for Duke in the coaches? I sure hope so. It's been a long time since Spurrier's Duke vote was legit.
It's partially my fault, man. I too knew that every game I attended at Lane, we won. I had to take the PhD qualifier yesterday and missed most of the first half. By the time I got there, it was already too late.
OSUe? (Oregon State is west OSU, then Oklahoma State is central OSU, then Ohio State is east OSU...) You mean USCe?
Missouri is good. Losing to USCe isn't all that bad, they have a pretty good QB, really good RB, best DE...ever? And they're tough. Real tough.
Consider the circumstances, Gus Malzahn recruited his players at Auburn, then was replaced by Chizik for Loeffler and Co. To bridge the gap Chikiz had Loeffler run a hybrid offense, with players fit for Malzahn's HUNH, not a prostyle multiple attack. It should be a surprise to no one that Malzahn returned to Auburn and has had immediate success. Not only is he a brilliant man, but his offense is geared to be a quick install, and his players were already there. At Tech again Loeffler fell into a situation lacking talent for his scheme. There's a reason this staff is trying to sign 4-5 receivers and 5 o-linemen in the 2014 cycle. The cupboard needs to be restocked.
There were both bad play calls and missed execution yesterday. Based on other comments you've made, my guess is you can't predict plays based on formation or motion. The read option is different than the veer / inverted veer, which is what we run with Logan.
Nope. It is not "illegal touching"...it is "first touching" on a scrimmage kick. And if the player is out of bounds, then the ball is dead at that point. However, it that kick does not go out of bounds and continues, then the receiving team can elect to take the ball at point of first touching...no matter what occurs after that, thus becoming a no risk opportunity for the receiving team. "Illegal touching" occurs on a free kick before it has gone ten yards...or when an ineligible offensive player is first to touch a pass before it has crossed the line of scrimmage. If a member of the receiving team on a scrimmage kick is first to touch a kick beyond the LOS and does not make a catch, then it is a muff and can recovered by the kicking team but not advanced.
As is expected.
I wonder if duke jumps up in the rankings..
I mean if they were an SEC team they would. ..then we'd be pummeled with how deep the sec is...
Even though mizzou lost to a vastly overrated OSUe at home... so is usce good, or are the taking heads just too quick to credit a truly untested mizzou team.??
Which is it ESECPN???
Much rather lose to Duke and get it out of the way. Sure it looks like a terrible loss, and no doubt it was, but Duke has turned into a respectable program. I surely expected to win, but did not think a loss was out of the realm of possibility.
Miami certainly looks beatable. If it comes down to VT-Miami for the coastal we certainly have a chance to go to Charlotte and lose to FSU by 40.
I figured as much and Duke isn't ranked above VT due to the upset either..
So go for it on 4th downs and get an extra snap for your Offense.
Journell should never have been reinstated, IMO. I'm at a loss for why Beamer has given him so many chances. I keep telling myself it's not just because we don't have anything better waiting in the wings.
But I just don't see how it could be anything else. Be happy for someone to educate me on this point.
Miami, the only reason I'd take losing to Duke is if we win out from here and get a chance to play FSU.
I wanna know why people on here calling out Loeffler? There was a couple bad play calls yesterday, but Logan Thomas is unfixable. Hes an average qb and always will be. And everyone has their right to an opinion. Logan had great pass protection yesterday and he had wrs open all day long yesterday. Its not loefflers fault that logan cant throw the damn ball. Time and time again yesterday logan threw into double and triple coverage when there was an open wr. The 4th INT he threw coulda been the game winner for us, but logan doesn't know how to read defenses or go through progressions. We should let Loeffler get his players and his qb in here first before we crucify the guy for the old regimes short comings. END RANT
In the big picture - I would rather lose to Duke and beat Miami to win the Coastal. I just hope we don't lose to both!
There is a world of difference in talent between what Auburn has to work with this year, and what VT has.
And from what we hear, there is a world of difference in the situation Loeffler was in with regards to control over the offense compared to Mahlzan.
I think anyone that says his grace period is up this early is ignoring the complete disarray this Offense was in after years of Stiney trying to implement an "Everything" scheme, and the complete Oline retooling required after years of Newsome training converted tight-ends to bunny-hop their ways through D-1 football.
Loeffler gets a grace period that should last at least 2 years IMO. That's 2 years to get his and Grimeses players into the system.
2 years of a QB recruited for the ability to play within Loeffler's system learning the ropes. Likewise for Oline recruits.
Logan was recruited as a TE/QB. The reason he is a QB is because we failed in recruiting the QBs who were our first priority. And the reason we failed to recruit those QBs is because highly recruited QBs were generally smart enough to look at Newsome's sieve of a line, and Stiney's system & results and grok that VT is a graveyard for pocket passers and therefore a graveyard for pro-hopes.
I'm not saying Logan can't be a great QB. He's shown he has the ability. He needs the consistency that comes with repetitions in a coherent system. The previous system wasn't coherent, and he's just out of time for the number of reps that he really ought to have to truly internalize this system. Hopefully yesterday was just a bad day and he'll get back on track next week. I really respect him as a person and as a player, and want nothing but the best for him.
In the end, I know yesterday was a crushing reminder that we have a long way to go offensively, but I see a lot of promise for the future still.
This year is just going to be a grind.
I know the circumstances of the game. Thanks for informing me.
The question should be would we rather lose to Duke or LOLUVA?
Nothing changes in that scenario. Miami is central to the question because they are the division leader, beating them is what is necessary to get to Charlotte in my scenario.
This thread wasn't about ranting about the game, it was about the bigger picture. If you want to rant about the game, Go fuck yourself, San Diego and do it somewhere else.
I can tell you East stand is always packed. The south end zone has always been like that from students sneaking in to the east side. I know I did that. Upper south is such a crappy view with no energy
They're up next week. BC hate week begins
This can work both ways, though. Say, on a kickoff, the ball is about to bounce into the end zone, near the sideline, at the 1. The returner can step out of bounds, grab the ball (which is still in bounds) and the official call is that the ball is out, meaning the call is a kickoff out of bounds and the returning team gets it at the 35.
Miami.
Not trying to homerize it - just that the replay they showed in the stadium made it look like a bad call.
I'm curious to see a better replay.
Not too many years ago even those seats were hard to come by! Where is the student body that is supposed to be filling Lane?
That's not loefflers fault? if its 4th an 1 you obviously sneak with the qb we have cuz he sure as hell cant be trusted to throw it. Its not loefflers fault the oline was getting ZERO push. Logan and Journell were the 2 that deserve most of the criticism from last night even tho there is a tad to go around elsewhere. Whats sad is that duke didn't even have a catch in the 2nd half at all and was 0-11 on 3rd downs and threw 4 ints lol