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With all due respect Joe are you kidding with this question! I know this is not the Duke of old but it's still Duke football which the D held to UNDER 200 yards and we LOST! The question should be would we rather lose to Duke or LOLUVA? When you do your film breakdown see how many times we actually had a positive running play then trotted that same "package" as the coaches like to call it OFF the field for another. All Shane talks about is feeding it to the hot hand. How the hell is a RB supposed to get hot when he has a positive play then trots to the sideline. Lefty is already on my hot seat limited talent or not they not running what is actually working.
Two years ago I had a discussion with a Big Auburn fan over who had the worst offensive coordinator. Much to my dismay we hired the only person that I have ever had anyone try to tell me was a worse than Stinespring. After yesterdays performance I think I might have actually been wrong.
Yep. Right call, bad rule.
It was CLEARLY the right call by the officials after the review so let's not Homerize this one to death.
I just don't buy the it takes years to get an offense installed argument. Like the original post said Auburn has done it in the same amount of time we have. May not have the talent necessary but I feel like I am watching the O of old when I can predict what play is going to be run a lot of the time. I get what pre snap motion is supposed to do but like in the past were not fooling anyone. The read plays take way too long to develop and by the time we finally decide to hand it to a RB running east west even a bad defender is in the backfield. That means were asking a QB who is obviously not comfortable doing so yet to run a read option, fake it then look downfield and TRY to go through progressions again which he is not comfortable doing. If we can see this why can't coaches. We could have run every play out of a power I yesterday and based on the few plays we did that they gained positive yards then run play action giving your QB maybe two options and if not there throw it away. All this presnap shit ain't fooling anyone so adjust. Other person that needs to take some heat is "mr tip o the spear". Grimes better show us something in the next year or two as well unless that too will take several more years to fully install!
Miami squeaked by Wake yesterday. VT certainly has a chance against them.
I still think this is a BS rule. A player can be out of bounds and touch a ball and it's downed there? If it's an offensive player, it's either illegal touching or a fumble and up for grabs. But if he's a member of the kicking team, it's a knife in the heart. Moot point, as Dozer says, because it was an awesome TD drive, but that's a rule that needs to be looked at.
Just looking at this post...fuck Boston College.
Joe- I have to say this was level-headed and well-written post considering the circumstances. Thanks for not being a tool.
For everyone else, this program has made their mark after losing tough games:
2006: L to BC, 6-0 rest of season
2007: L to BC, 4-0 rest of season
2008: L to BC, 3-2 rest of reason
2009: L to UNC, 4-0 rest of season
2010: L to JMU, 10-0 rest of season
2011: L to CU, 7-0 rest of season
A minor setback for a major comeback? We still control our own destiny in the ACC Costal. We still have the best defense in the country which means we'll be in every game we play. We still have a senior QB. Are we mathematically out of the NC? Yeah but we weren't going to make it this year anyways.
Everyone, chill the fuck out. Yes, we lost to Duke but it's not like we're UVA.
We will fall out the poll somewhere between 26 - 31..Duke will need another win to get into the poll.
agreed. It's almost like the forums should be shut down for a good 12 hours so everyone can cool off, vent, and get sober before getting back on. I have been trying to up vote every down vote for matters of opinion. This isn't a like/dislike system, it is a "like or agree" versus "wow that was offensive."
I have never seen so many downvotes before...it truly is amazing how a loss to Duke can shake things up
No this is ridiculous...I AM going to vent here. It isnt like I dont still love hokie football...All anyone is saying is that we suck and lost to Duke
I think you hit the nail on the head. There are obviously some things you want to see that we aren't seeing from a new OC hire. Some people have hit on it, and I am in deep waters here (i.e. I don't have the full understanding of the situation) so I am not going to delve into this too much...From what I understand, feel free to correct me here, the previous offensive staff really dropped the ball on recruiting some good talent. Loeffler has to deal with subpar offensive line, subpar wide receivers, OK running backs and a decent QB (yes decent, serviceable, say what you want). I think the issues really start with the O-line. If they can't execute decently, then nothing is going to go right, timing is off, holes close up, pressure on QB, etc.
I thought last night, the running game looked better and I am not sure why we didn't lean on that more. That being said, give Loeffler a good 3 years. He was only able to start implementing his offense in the spring, then had to stop and resume 30 days before Alabama. It takes a few years to get the offensive fully installed and in an evolutionary state (evolving every game), and to get the right players to run it.
There was one play (I believe on a different drive) where the mailman was all alone in the end zone, jumping up and down, being ignored, no one within 20 yards. I know, view from the stands vs. the field and all that, but it happened enough times to drive me crazy.
Don't forget, Ron Cherry stole 7 points from us.
since we went 99 yards for a TD it ended up being a moot point. I agree though, from what I saw in the film definitely looked like the ball had bounced off of him just prior to his heel going down out of bounds.
this was a great look
He only makes the defense stronger. Glad to have him back.
What else can be said? The defense played great, but we need to score touchdowns at the end of each drive.
Good points, Andy.
Especially about the defense. If it is possible to focus on the positive this week, I'm hoping we harp on how great the defense played. They really held their own yesterday.
They did an amazing set last week featuring some stuff from Michael Jackson...
The time these guys must put in week to week.. goodness
I totally understand where you're coming from. We benched Glennon for Taylor. We also benched Taylor for Glennon. When something's not going well, we need to stop doing it. On the other hand, I'm not coaching these guys. I don't know what our other QBs are like. I don't know how hard they work. I don't know what the psychological effect of benching X Y or Z is. I put a lot of faith into these coaches. Sure, it stings sometimes, but they're damn fine coaches and know a whole hell of a lot more about football and this team than I do.
Reading this exchange made me think of this
I think there are a lot of parallels between Auburn last year and VT this year. In my mind, not all of the blame falls squarely on Loeffler. His play-calling yesterday was disheartening and confusing. I am upset with him for it and I place a lot of blame on him because of it. But here's what I'm trying to keep in mind:
1. Auburn recruited spread players and wanted Loeffler to install a pro system. Then Chizik interfered with the offense and it got worse. Square peg, round hole. We don't have the players that Loeffler needs to execute his schemes. We lost good receivers, have an O-line that's cobbled together, and have no go-to RB (and we haven't for a few years). That's on the previous coaches for not recruiting well enough. Auburn is turning around because Malzahn has the same spread players and he's now running a spread offense.
2. Auburn had a QB who was a great athlete and not a great QB. Sound familiar? Frazier is now a safety. Logan is a great athlete and I love his heart and dedication, but it's not enough. I keep reminding myself that we have great QBs in the pipeline.
As you said, he deserves more time. That's very true. If we're still in this position in 2-3 years (enough time to keep recruiting and develop the talented incoming QBs), then we have a serious problem.