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C) Are so sure that Logan gives us a better chance to win than Leal. No one knows how good/bad he will be.
I love this team, but I'm also too rational of a person to believe that Logan can lead us to an ACC championship.
These two points make it seems as if you are coming across as Leal potentially being a better option. Winning an ACC Championship? Maybe you didn't state that directly. My mistake.
With that said, if Leal could be a better option than Logan Thomas, he would playing. Just because his actual in game performance is still a relative unknown does not mean that he will be the second coming of Kurt Warner. That's the issue I have with the whole discussion. I am far from a 100% defender of Logan Thomas, half his plays may be good, while the other half may leave me scratching my head trying to come up with a reason why a Division 1A QB would do what he did. But he is still, and for the rest of this year, will be the better option at QB. Leal has shown absolutely nothing with regards to being able to be a playmaker in an offense that is severly lacking talent at skill positions. Sure, he may have been accurate a few times in mop up duty against FCS backups with zero pressure. Awesome. But it has nothing to do with his ability to make plays against BCS level competition.
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12 years 9 months
# | Logan Thomas (Or How I Learned To Recognize Outliers And Accept Mediocrity) The 2nd string quarterback is the most popular player on any team with an under-performing QB.
I will assure you that there are many fans like that who go back and forth on 1 Qb. Ive been to many of tech games and I used to hear people in the stands talking mad shit about tyrod all the time when he was a freshman/sophomore. I would turn around and say are you kidding me because half of the people there didn't understand anything about football. Truth of the matter is that everyone on these boards wants to win, and we support VT and everything it stands for. Logan may give us the best chance to win, but he certainly isn't doing this team any favors. Basically every week everyone is gonna be on here complaining about the offense and logan because it is what it is. And that's pretty much ugly. And people are just gonna have to deal with that fact.
I think that is the biggest issue for most of us. Look at any college QB and you will find throws that they should/should not have thrown. Furthermore, at any level you will find inaccurate throws. No matter what game - you will find plays that the QB did not execute perfectly.
I think most could understand frustration with Logan's play. However, I just do not see the logic behind "knowing" that Leal is so much better and expecting perfection with a new offense and new (and not as talented as usual) players.
Finally, I will say this. I have a lot of Marshall friends and at the tailgate after the game one of them, who has a VT grad for a wife, claimed, "I don't see how anyone could complain about Logan after that game." Many others, including me, agreed. Granted, we all knew Logan struggled at times but he led us to victory. He had a higher completion percentage, in a driving rain, than the QB who lead the NCAA in passing last year. Same amount of INTs (I know our defense is better, but one team's WRs are better as well). But LT came out on top and made plays when it mattered. I left my phone in the truck because of the rain. Little did I know what was going on here, and I am somewhat shocked. Call for Leal all you want, but when push comes to shove, Logan Thomas has won a lot of games for VT by putting the entire offense on his back. For that, we all should be thankful and really get behind him. He deserves our support. Let the personnel changes come from the coaches, because after all, have we even actually seen Leal play against a FBS 1st string defense???
I had no rain gear and may or may not have thought it was a good idea to take my shirt off somewhere about the time Hopkins tried to rumble his way to a victory.
It was worth risking hypothermia to see that game all the way to the end.
Where did I ever say that?
What frustrates me most when people call for Leal isn't the opinion, it is that most (not all) of them in the stadium (not necessarily on this site either) are really unfair about it/ two sided. After EACH AND EVERY mistake people scream, and I mean SCREAM for Leal, as if Leal will throw for 100% completions, 0 picks and 7 touchdowns each game. I get the argument that Leal could be better, we just don't know...but some people in the stands seem to think that he's the next Vick. Furthermore, people who have said things like "oh my god what a useless f-ck of a person" (I wish that comment was an exaggeration) after a bad pass turn around and say "YEAH LOGAN, THAT'S MY BOY" when he runs for a first down on the very next play. I mean, every play he makes is under incredible scrutiny, and they're all "make or break" in some people's eyes. I could be wrong, and I may not find out if I am or not, but I have a hunch, that some people in the stands could watch a 20/25 performance and scream for Leal on his 5 incompletions. I know that's not everyone, but it's enough of the people in my vicinity, and it's what is most frustrating about this to me.
Maybe hard rain football is supposed to be sloppy. It was frustrating to watch, but we'll be hard pressed to have another game this entertaining: TWO blocked punts (one for TD), refs on reefer, a take-away knock-down endzone interception, a bumbled punt almost touchdown, and best of all, a near fat-linesman TD! Thanks Joe, the GIFs are great!
And this should end the discussion. French has a knack for talent (Teller, Facyson, Edmunds) and knows the game of football. In the limited time we have seen Leal, he hasn't done anything that proves he should be the starter.
Logan makes his mistakes, but his ability and drive makes this offense better, the team better, and he will continue to get better.
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12 years 9 months
# | Logan Thomas (Or How I Learned To Recognize Outliers And Accept Mediocrity) A) Continue to use the word "potential" in regards to Logan
Why shouldn't we? This is the first season where he's had real coaching. If we had gotten Loeffler a year or two ago, Logan would be vastly better. He has the physical skills, and this is the first year he's being challenged to step up the mental aspect of the game.
B) Make arguments pertaining to how successful this team will be on the grounds that Logan will play like he did in 2011. Sorry, but it's not happening.
That's fair, but I think it's more a function of the supporting cast. 2011 demonstrated what Logan can do when others are playing at a higher level. We have growing talent in the WR corps, but they will not be to the level of Boykin and the almighty Danny Coale (one of my all-time favorite Hokies). The threat of David Wilson also made everyone look better in 2011.
C) Are so sure that Logan gives us a better chance to win than Leal. No one knows how good/bad he will be.
Per my point above, I suspect the coaches do.
You are too rational to believe that Logan can lead us to an ACC Championship, yet you feel as if Leal can? If Leal hasn't been able to beat out Logan after TWO QB competitions, how in the hell do you expect Leal to be able to beat the majority of ACC teams?
Of course the OL finally gave Wilson some space to run in today and he scores a nice 15 yard TD. But alas, someone got caught holding. I'm starting to really feel bad for him. Not because Coughlin's a dick, but because the Giants are just that bad.
Watched both TMNT movies on abc family this afternoon. Brings back memories of growing up in the 90's.
My sister and I, both high school students, stayed for the entire game after my other sister (middle school student) and mother left at halftime. We were sitting in section 17, right next to the Marshall section, and I don't think even an eighth of their fans left early, whereas half of the Hokie fans were gone by overtime. Quite despicable, if you ask me. Who cares that it's raining? Who cares that it's Marshall? Who cares that if you're a student you can just go back to your dorm and watch the game there? Your team needs you as fans. I'm definitely glad I was one of those fans who got drenched to watch our team win in triple overtime.
Most of the people on here support Logan because we want VT to win. And we all recognize that he works his ass off. The thing that frustrates me is when people:
A) Continue to use the word "potential" in regards to Logan
B) Make arguments pertaining to how successful this team will be on the grounds that Logan will play like he did in 2011. Sorry, but it's not happening.
C) Are so sure that Logan gives us a better chance to win than Leal. No one knows how good/bad he will be.
I love this team, but I'm also too rational of a person to believe that Logan can lead us to an ACC championship. For the record, I also believe that there is 0% chance that Logan gets benched. I just kind of wish Beamer would at least consider it.
Vitriol and pejoratives belong to the Boohoos at LOLuva. Now I just gotta ask amigo. Does your screen name translate as: Why SEC for g? If so, what is "g". If not, what the heck does it mean? Dying of curiosity here. Thanks in advance. BTW I saw your #sarcasm there.
I think everyone understands the arguments.
I think people just come to different conclusions. It's not that one side has the answer and the other side isn't smart enough to grasp it.
My daughter learned her fifth word ever during this game. Today, she climbed onto the back of the couch and starting punching it, yelling f---! over and over. My wife is mad.
High tech treadmill, low tech computer. Horse, we need to get you upgraded in every facet of your game. #Runlikeastallion
I don't get; where's the vitriol, where are the pejoratives in your reply?
Thanks Dozer, always a pleasure to watch your work. As far as the TMNT reference, my oldest son was really into those guys when he was in elementary school. I feel really old all of a sudden, but I greatly enjoyed the game review and your humor. Hope to see something similar after the Hokies #Beatthebees
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12 years 9 months
# | Logan Thomas (Or How I Learned To Recognize Outliers And Accept Mediocrity) I really dislike the condescending tone coming from several people on this site on this topic. We get the arguments. I know I certainly do. Here's where I'm coming from:
1. The coaches see these guys every day and are being paid a lot of money to try to win. I suspect they know something.
2. Any young man that suits up in the Orange and Maroon and works his ass off to represent this team on and off the field has my support. Logan has been a model citizen and teammate. He's doing the best he can given his own skills, the players around him, and prior years of inadequate coaching.
3. There is zero chance that Logan gets benched in his senior year, per everything that is being said by players and coaches. This argument, for me, is as tired as "the students suck" posts.
If we work hard, day in and day out and good things will happen. Call me naive if you like, but I support this team in the form it is now, because I suspect they're doing their damndest to win. Go Hokies.
So many of you guys just don't get the arguments being made on here...
There are a ton of people who think he should move to TE.
But those people aren't savvy enough to post here. :)