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IMO I agree that we seemed to have missed on some of these recruits, but we also have a brand new offensive staff, new recruiting territories, and are coming off a down season.

Spot on. I think what we all have to remember is that we're competing for the hearts and minds of kids who want glory. They lose sight of the fact that VT has consistently produced great talent, despite the lack of a National Championship. Now we've had a down year, so that's all they see. Staff turnover might make them uneasy, but I think our new crew is going to do fine on the recruiting trail. Our performance on the field in 2013, and maybe to a larger extent 2014, will determine how recruiting goes for the foreseeable future.

They all flock to Bama (and others) because they see that as the easiest route to quick gratification and the high life because of recent success. I'd rather have recruits like CJ and others we've had in the past, the guys that want to be here, who love VT, and want to win to represent their school and their fans. Not too long ago (when our streak of 10-win seasons started), Bama was second-to last in the SEC with something like 2 conference wins.

I don't know about you all, but when you fire three coaches in the offseason and hire new ones, it doesn't exactly translate into "EXCITING NEW RECRUITING!" right away in my mind, even if the new coaches are reasons to get excited.

I didn't mean the post was seen as hateful, I was more using the casual term of "spewing hate". My apologies if that was mis-understood. I was mostly trying to point out a lot of what you just said, people are jumping all over the down vote button. IMO I agree that we seemed to have missed on some of these recruits, but we also have a brand new offensive staff, new recruiting territories, and are coming off a down season. I think it's easy to look in from the outside and say Dabo is a great recruiter (which he seems to be) but who knows what he's telling these kids and/or what rules he may be breaking. Butch Davis was a great recruiter, as was Lane Kiffin, but at what cost? I guess my "maroon colored glasses" are that we thrive at finding and developing talent and as much as it sucks missing some of these high profile guys (and it does suck) I think this new staff has a lot of potential especially down the road.

I think downvoting is starting to get a bit out of control. We shouldn't downvote for disagreeing, but I'm seeing that a lot in the last few weeks. Downvote when people are abusive or blatantly offensive. I disagree with some of what you said hokieNskins, but I don't see it as hateful.

It isn't hate vtfly. I've been a fan for 25 years. Just speaking my mind and if people disagree thats cool. They can look at this program through Maroon colored glasses if they want too. I couldn't care less about voting down or voting up or turkey legs. That's not why I enjoy visiting TKP.

He didn't sign a NLOI for us and so he's essentially a free agent.

As far as I know, Harris never signed his LOI, so was never on scholarship here so we can't dictate what he is allowed to do.

Definitely not an ACC thing. One example is Sylvester Williams, who played for UNC the past two years; he was a JUCO transfer.

Didn't Gus Gilchrist decommit from us a few years ago in basketball and they didn't let him play at UMD the next year because it was within the ACC? Why wouldn't that apply here?

I thought it was an ACC thing, which must be untrue if FSU is an option.

I've heard that too, but I have never heard the "why" behind that rule. Is it a CFB thing? Or a VT Athletics thing?

I've heard that we have some unwritten rule that we won't take players who have to go to JUCO after not qualifying through high school and prep school, which might be why.

This isn't that big of a surprise, given the drawn-out saga we had already seen. I was basically counting on not having Harris available. It's a shame, but that's life in the college game. I'm with StevenSorrell, though - how can he qualify for FSU but not VT? I thought qualification was determined at the NCAA level, not individual institutions.

The play you're showing me above seems doomed from the start. Pre-snap, HB doesn't read the play properly, expects blitz, and never releases to the flat. The LBs are in a 3-deep underneath, but the W & S are cheating way inside. The flats are wide open. but there's no receiver to throw to.

The inside receivers are running snag routes. The outside receiver is running an option route, he reads the defense, and either releases deep or runs a 12 yd hunt route. He choose the 12 yd hunt - which I think was the correct call. The far side receiver runs a comeback route, which I don't think was the proper route. I think the post would have been a better choice to occupy the deep corner and the safety, allowing for a greater hole in the middle of the quarters coverage.

HB should have checked, and released three yards into the flat to the left side. With the OLB overplaying the inside on the snag, a simple toss to the HB would've been close to a first down. If the far receiver runs off the corner, then the throw to the flat is a sure first down.

Because there is so much congestion in the middle, the QB tries to fit into the hunt route, and it gets knocked down because there isn't a big enough passing window between the LBs and the Safeties to throw into.

So, this play has a better chance of working if the RB releases, and would be a first down if the correct route is run up top by the WR. I think the WR didn't run the correct route because the comeback would work great in combination with a wheel route by the HB, which puts the CB in the 1/4 in a pinch and leaves either receiver open depending on his choice. It doesn't work on a straight flat release.

So you don't even have a true triangle read on this play, but if it was run properly, I think the read would go (1) Peak at the WR up top running the post, (2) would be the snag route, (3) would be the back in the flat.

To me, a triangle read goes back to the old Stan Gillman and Bill Walsh, BYU Norm Chow and Doug Scovill concepts in that you are stretching the field horizontally and vertically to open up passing windows in a zone coverage. The read for the QB then is a triangle read from high to low. I think this is what Loeffler was trying to do on this play, but there was a clear communication breakdown that caused a breakdown in the play itself.

First game i ever attended (was in high school) and it was a good first one. Miami you will always be my #1 hated and you got us back good for this game in 05. The 05 game hurt my little hokie heart :(

man .. i feel old when we're talking with guys who don't know bruce matthews ... guy was a beast :)

think he's deciding before the end of summer. if ole miss doesn't offer before he commits, i think we'll get him and keep him. he's not a waffler

haha, someone from Ole Miss made reference to this article:

No update on his top 3 though.

I'm so confused, if he has lingering transcript issues, how is it that FSU can allow him to play and we can't?

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